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I'm saying we lose a close heartbreaker today as Ozzie is forced to put Tony Pena in. I say when that happens, the rest of our players should walk off the field, because you know we lose if that's the case.

So far, everyone denying the trade.

No. Rubber smells badly from Field turf. Like really badly. I remember going to St. Ignatius when they installed it...puke.

QUOTE (b-Rye @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 11:51 AM) Because... 1. He's a D-Bag 2. He hit .219 last year 3. Dewayne Wise outperformed him offensively and defensively last year 4. He strikes out too much 5. He was a fourth OF/backup 1B 6. He's a D-Bag nobody liked, and have you noticed when we play Yankee's Konerko won't even talk/look at him at first. 1)He's really not a d-bag. The Sox are the only team he didn't mesh well with in the clubhouse. My thinks it has to do alot with #6, or #14 if you will. 2)Very true. Yet, we applaud Rios and want to give him another shot next year. Huh? 3)And how about this year? How about the career? 4)True. So does Adam Dunn whom we all want as DH next year. And we had Thome. Some good players do K a lot. 5)And probably one of the best fourth OF/backup 1B in the league at his worst last year. 6)He's a d-bag that "leaders" of the clubhouse didn't like, particularly Paul Konerko who I think hates when people attempt to take the leadership role from him. Or perhaps hates people who lead in different ways than he does. I'm pretty sure he's the one who also hated Orlando. All in all, he probably doesn't like any loudmouth player who tells it like it is. Players who were their emotions on their sleeve. You follow PK, or you leave, pretty much unless you're Ozzie.

Why isn't Frank on there or am I missing something?

I opened up this theard and immediately jumped to the last page. And then I thought I opened up the wrong thread. So I see this thread has new posts, cementing the fact that I probably open the wrong thread, just to open it again and realize, there is no mention of Octavio Dotel at all on the last page. Off-topic much?!

QUOTE (soxfan-kwman @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 01:20 PM) Rios is having a problem at the plate & him dropping that ball last night may help him. Sometimes when you completely bottom out, you only have one direction to move in.(hopefully up). I went to the game last night & sat really close to the sox dugout. Rios seems to be off in a different world. I believe he is very frustrated, but he may think to much of himself to try to help himself. He strikes me as a guy who doesn't like to ask for help until its to late. At this point in our season he is a base-stealing version of Brian Anderson. These areas in his swing might help him salvage his year: FEET He needs to change his approach. He has his lead (front) foot up in some attempt to get loft on the ball. Then he spreads and bends his legs, which is fine(you start your swing through your legs). With the squatting motion the height seems to change up on him. I would even suggest that he open up little bit & he might pull more. He would surely not swing through hittable inside pitches . SHOULDERS & ARMS Also he puts his shoulders somewhat back to not jam himself. However, his torso leans toward the plate & he ends up not able to get around with that long swing. At this point the only pitch he can hit good is high outside pitches. The sweet spot of the bat is only on the outside part of the plate. That & he like to swing at low pitches to often. HANDS Rios has like 2 or 3 hitches he has going with his hands. He should rest his hands ready for his swing like Crede used to do. However, he gets ready, then he brings his hands down to rest & relax his hands, then he puts it in his natural load spot. He should put his hands in his spot for hitting and just let the barrel rest on his back right shoulder&arm. Also I would suggest that he watch Chase Utley hit in a mirror so he can see how to simplify his swing. In general his swing, if he tilted his body back (ala manny ramirez) he would be able to connect a lot more.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 10, 2009 -> 01:36 PM) I can't imagine that'd have a lasting effect. Are people from all over the world clamoring to visit Atlanta and Salt Lake? Atlanta I can say yes. That place was a dump before the Olympics. I rather go to Milwaukee than Atlanta pre-1996.

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 03:14 PM) Darrell Arthur has a lot of upside on the defensive end, and he's shown that he could also be a force on the glass. He's not ready to play 30+ minutes as of yet, so Memphis was correct in acquiring a stopgap PF, but for the love of god, why Zach Randolph? Dude is easily one of the biggest losers in the NBA, and I just know that they're gonna keep him out there for an insane amount of minutes, thereby stunting the growth of Arthur. The Iverson acquisition is also pointless. They already have a score-first combo guard in OJ Mayo. You're telling me that both of those guys are gonna be on the court at the same time, with Zach Randolph? LOL. This team might have a terrific young core, but players like Conley and Arthur will most likely have their growth stunted. Whether or not they make the playoffs is irrelevant to me. This is a team that should be thinking long-term. Randolph and AI are not long-term assets, and yet, they're gonna be hogging precious minutes that should be reserved for important pieces. I die a little inside every time someone talks positively about these acquisitions. Agreed. The only reason why they're doing it though is because they've been losing fan support. I am big on Conley and Arthur as well as I am a huge fan of Mayo. I think they need to get rid of Randolph(duh), Gay(not a big fan), and get some more quality depth at the guard positions. Honestly a guy like 'Melo or Danny Granger would do wonders IMHO with Mayo.

I predict at the end of the year, there will be a game played for the championship. The game will be called "Super Bowl" and all males will partake in the ultimate binge drinking, nacho cheese dipping party. I then predict, the day after, we'll all start the countdown for the following years party.

THIS.TEAM.IS.ALMOST.MATHEMATICALLY.DEAD

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2009 -> 07:36 PM) 2007, .852 OPS, 122 OPS+ 2008, .798 OPS, 111 OPS+ 2009, yeah, he's been awful, especially with us. But even in 2008 he was an above-average performer with the bat. 2007 he was a deserving all star. by OPS+ 2007 was the best season of his career. Okay, 2 years. 111+OPS is nothing to write home about. The biggest problems I see with him are that his head doesn't move with the ball, only the eyes, which can be okay if you're able to look directly down at the ball with your eyes when it's at the plate, which he can't because he's so tall. That causes a ton of huge swing and misses. His bat speed is okay and his stance, though kinda goofy for a guy that tall, is actually a smart one since it allows him to level his shoulders moreso with the plane of the ball, creates a smaller strike zone, and allows him to see the ball better coming out of the pitchers hand(eye level). If you notice, Dye does the same thing, except not as extreme. He bends his front foot inwards and his back leg inward as well. Rios though, more so sits kind of like Aaron Rowand. Both have the same idea though.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Sep 8, 2009 -> 05:25 PM) He is lost out there, but I think that's more of him trying to hard. Next year, after he doesn't have to earn playing time and Ozzie tells him to just relax and play, he should, I repeat...should, get back to being a very good player. Plus, he's a huge upgrade in defense, which is always a good thing for this team. He played for the Blue Jays. There has not been a much better team out there where you could relax and play than them as they are a winning team, but play in a division where they are not expected to do anything. He could relax and not worry about pressing for his team to make the playoffs because he's never been in a pennant race. Regardless, he's not been very good the past 3 years.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 4, 2009 -> 12:42 PM) It defeats the purpose of the draft if any player can just back out, IMO. I understand that foreign players would like to play for the Lakers, Celts, Bulls, but it sucks when the draft is there to help the bad teams get better and a player just steps out because he can. I know it is within his rights, but it still sucks. Agreed. I think you should only be able to declare once and if you declare, just like in college, you can't back out.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 4, 2009 -> 12:47 PM) Why are teams firing there OCoords so early? It seems weird and puzzling. I guess the people hired will be running the same system but its odd. I don't get it either. Unless they're going from run n shoop to a Mike Martz offense, it doesn't make sense.

It's very simple. Rios was good, but now sucks. Wise always sucked. BA sucked, but was much more of a viable option as he provides as good of defense as Rios, sucks as much with the bat, and costs pennies compared to Rios, but again, he sucks. All in all, Rios was not an answer, shows that, day in and out, and now we're paying him as much as PK.

QUOTE (earthshiner @ Sep 3, 2009 -> 10:39 PM) one has a history of being good the other has a history of being pretty poor. One hasn't been good for a few years already. The other has never had a full year as a starter. Regardless, for the amount being paid to Rios, give me BA as the #9 hitter, hell give me period, anyday over Rios.

I'm with Frankensteiner and I said it awhile ago. There's a reason why TOR was willing to dump him so easily. His contract for the play he gives you is the big reason why. He's no better than Brian Anderson.

Happy berfday bruh's

QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 3, 2009 -> 02:24 PM) Because Detroit and Minny have more talent. Fields was a very iffy prospect at best on 4/1; Center field figured to be a disaster, and it was; Quentin had a poor ST as I recall. As for 2010, all three positions should be much better. I look for Beckham to be a 'leader' next year. No, just no. Detroit got rid of some talent, had a declining Maggs back, had to put Porcello in the rotation and had more question marks than we did. Minny definitely does not have more talent, they just play to their strengths really well. Fields was not an iffy prospect. His rookie year he hit around 25 home runs without playing the whole year. No one considered him an iffy at best prospect. More like a potential Adam Dunn at 3B, which didn't work out. And are you telling me, Quentin having a bad spring training is good enough for you to not count on him? Wow. This guy was the MVP last year until he injured his own self.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 08:41 AM) I'm hearin from people he listed us to be nice, and I've heard its between Duke and ISU. Don't know what to think, cause I'm hearing it from people both close to the program and close to Harrison. People close to the program: ISU People close to H Barnes: Duke

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 06:46 PM) Look at it this way... Chicago gets massive debt fixing/updating things that are way overdue, then makes back 3/4ths of it hosting the Olympics and has a substantial but smaller debt left over. or Chicago gets a substantial smaller debt due to day to day repair, doesn't fix a lot of things as much as they need to be fixed and never hosts a major event again. Either way, they'll be some debt incurred; but, in the Olympics scenario, stuff will actually be built/replaced as opposed to just "maintained." Well said. This is the only way things will get done in this city that needs to be done. Regardless, we're going to continue getting tax hikes, but this will allow, correction, force us to actually do something with that tax money.

I'm not against it, I fkn want it. People need to realize how much of a hold Daley does have on the city. He is heavily involved in this process as well and he probably did underestimate the cost. It doesn't stop me from wanting the Olympics

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 01:42 PM) THe problem i have is that NOTHING Daley ever does comes in at or under budget. So, a $4+ billion Olympic games will easily be $6-9 billion the way he and his cronies run things. So, in the end, the city of Chicago and of course Cook County will be left with a massive tax burden. True. Very true. Won't deny that.

Apparently Kahn, Joventut and Rubio had an agreement in place on Saturday and Rubio went back on that and Joventut reluctantly and pissed off, let him go to Baracelona. It seems to me Rubio doesn't want to play for the Wolves.