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I think he'll finish his career year. With that said, I think we should just rest him until mid-September.

Hopefully the Twins. For the love of God, it better be the Twins.

Not so fast. If you lose, you have to join Crede's Crew and if you already are a member, you have to put the Crede's Crew pic in your avy.

Again, no point in trading Contreras for him. Jose is still signed through next year and will be cheaper next year. I would trade BMac and Baj for him. Maybe Marte(only if we are somehow getting Wagner or EG).

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) still, he's an injury plagued player. That is not worth taking a risk for To me it is. This year we're trying to go all the way for it. Griffey is an impact player still whether you'd like to admit it or not. He'd be great for this team. He's been injury prone the last 3 or 4 years, yes. This year, no. He's healthy finally. He's doing pretty damn good too and is a left-handed power bat who also doesn't just swing for the fences. In my opinion, I'd take that risk any day of the week.

Oliver won't get traded. I will display an avatar of anyone's choice if he does. Anyone willing to take wagers?

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) If people think that's a lot to give up for Randa, they might want to cover their eyes when they read what we'd have to give up for Burnett or Schmidt. Look at our top 20 prospects. I wouldn't give them 2 of them for Randa. That's my honest opinion. 10-20 is a mid level prospect essentially unless you're a team like the Brewers or Angels. Then that's a top prospect.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:18 PM) BWAHAHAHAHAHA His troubles won't just go away. They have this year pal.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) Odalis Perez wouldn't even be the 3rd best starter on this team. Odalis Perez is a better 4th/5th starter option than Jeff Weaver. Yes, but this whole move would be made so Contreras doesn't start in the playoffs. We can't face our own division if the division gets the wild card and more than likely not, we're going to be facing a really good offensive team(Bal, Red Sox, Yanks, Anaheim, Texas). Getting Odalis would pretty much defeat the purpose of getting a starting pitcher IMHO.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) Lets wait to see who the prospects are first. Don't matter, 2 prospects for Randa is pretty high. One of them has to be at least a mid level guy.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) you all know the 1st game griffey plays for us, his hamstring explodes. i don't want him He's been healthy all year. Chill out. His bad luck is over. I'm convinced.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 12:12 PM) I'll say I'm 99 percent sure he won't move Damaso without having another trade lined up for a left handed reliever. I agree. I really don't want to get rid of Contreras because statistically, you could make a case for him being better than Burnett this year. If we're trading for Burnett, have him pitch in the rotation while leaving Contreras in it or swing him to Philly for Wagner.

Old news. Odalis also got shelled in the playoffs last year. I know it was against St. Louis, but an "ace" shouldn't get rocked like that. I'm intrigued by Jeff Weaver since he'll be cheaper and probably a good 4th/5th starter.

I'm going to pat myself on the back and say I told ya'll. I said that the Padres were looking at him and probably would get him within the past week, but everyone overlooked my post about it.

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) You dont take out Rowand who's starting to swing a very hot bat. I just dont where to put Griffey. Im suprised the Cubs arent a potential Griffey suitor, maybe they just gave up. Dye in RF is solid in all facets after a reallly slow start. Podsednik is an All-Star.... I dont know.. Can Griffey play 1B? Griffey in CF, Rowand in RF, Dye at 1B(like Ive been saying). Makes me smile. I would love him to be on the Southside of Chicago. Do it KW. GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!

You wouldn't have to give up that much for Griffey. I'm telling you that as a Cincy Red fan. PK for Griffey is what I have proposed. They want to get rid of Casey, but it they can't, they at least get rid of most of Griffey's contract. And I'm holding on to Contreras over McCarthy or El Duque. We could probably trade BMac and another midlevel guy for Burnett and flip him into Wagner. That would be my best case scenario, but I don't see KW making any moves(for once, even though I think he should) that's going to make a difference at all.

Cora ain't going anywhere. He made one mistake last night. For those saying to send him again...uh no. Manny had that ball as soon as PK tagged 3rd base. It's not like the ball was a deep base hit. It was a liner hit in front of Manny(not over his head). Cora should know PK's speed. If you look at the replay, PK wasn't even in the picture when Varitek got the ball. Manny probably could've hit the cutoff man and the cutoff man still would've gotten him out.

Good win. Let's get'em tommorow.

Don't know the difference betwen the two, but the one Crede wears should be the one all of White Sox wear with sleaveless jerseys.

They're wearing the sleeveless ones tnoight. Thank you Jon Garland. You have answered my call!!!!

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) The more quality arms he has in the pen, the less he can make a mistake. I don't think there could be many mistakes made with Marte/Politte/Hermanson/Wagner at the end of the pen. Yeah he can. Using those guys for 1/3rd an inning and putting in Viz to close it out.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) I swear that is what they have been doing for the last 5 years lol. Seriously, it seems that the Ryan is in a perpetual state of "repair." Tell me about it. Damnit, I hate the Ryan.

QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 03:11 PM) We were talking to a bunch of dudes from boston and they were cool as f***. No doubt that some Red Sox fans are cool(I'm actually a fan of that team) but their fans(the bandwagoners that is) have really turned me off to them. I mean, guys with no connections to Boston and no reason to cheer for Boston are cheering for them like they're cheering for the Bulls circa 91-98.

QUOTE(palesox38 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) I'd rather have him than The Cuban Pitching Crisis. LOL I would too, but if we could flip him for a Billy Wagner and still keep all 5 of our starters(Burnett is no more effective than Contreras this year) then I rather allow the Cuban Pitching Crisis to keep keepin' on.

How about this idea?(Thinking like I'm K-Dub right now) White Sox trade for Burnett and proceed to move him for a package of Wagner and Lidle. Probably Burnett and Chris Young??? I don't know, but I know KW loves Corey Lidle and he could be a nice Spot Starter/Long Reliever. What do you guys think?