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They said on ESPN that Joe Randa would most likely end up with San Diego and that would pretty much be the end of Sean Burroughs there.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) The thing i'm trying to figure out is what percentage of these red sox fans are fairweather? How many are just die hards that have ended up in Chicago, or traveled out for the weekend? If they are die hards and are annoying, it sucks...but if they are typical fair weather pieces of crap, then it's 100 times worse. I really don't have a clue on the percentages though. The ones I was around were fairweather and you can tell. They were shocked when I was explaining to my brother that Carl Everett used to play with them. They just kept saying, "No, we would never let that player go." I just told them, either they're bandwagoners or they know jacks*** about baseball since Carl was with them within the past 5-6 years(and these guys were like 22). Two of their friends who are Sox fans just said, "they're bandwagoners" and laughed at them. They felt really stupid the whole game. And they would get such an orgy whenever Boston had a basehit. They kept saying, "This is where the s*** starts, right here. All the time, it's over for the White Sox. We're blowing this b**** wide open." Being a former GSR was the only thing that made me keep my cool from proceeding to giving them a verbal b**** slap.

QUOTE(Balance @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 09:55 AM) Last night's loss felt so bad because we beat ourselves. Here we are, trying to show that the Sox are for real against the champs, and we spit the bit. Our Sox need to show more focus and mental toughness if they're going to make a splash in the playoffs. It was very disheartening to see them play as poorly as they did last night. A couple good games this weekend and I think we'll all feel better. My sentiments exactly.

Chicago is already congested as it is. Imagine all those goddamn tourists here. No point in having a car for those Olympic days since you won't be able to move anywhere.

The Eagles and Patriots are two teams that won't pay your ass, good or bad. Notice how they're the top teams. The Eagles won't trade him to Atlanta like T.O. wants to think or anyone else except Bolivia. They'll let him rot and make an example out of him. He won't play in TC or preseason at all, but he will sure as hell play in the season. Why? Because if he doesn't, he'll have to pay back all his signing bonus from last year and he won't be getting paid jacks*** unless he applies at Jewel or something. I love T.O. as a talker and a player, but goddamn, he's gotten out of hand.

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:46 AM) I'm going to be Florida. No. Takes Burnett hostage.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 09:18 AM) If we trade Contreras for Burnett, we CAN'T flip him for Wagner. We'd be back in the 5th starter black hole. Yep. That's why Willie, Felix, and Joe(LTP) for Burnett. Take it or leave it Florida. DO IT DO IT DO IT!! GET TO DA CHOPPA!!!!!!

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 01:02 AM) This lineup = the 2000 lineup. When they get to the playoffs they are gonna get shut down big time and then complain about the sun being in their eyes just as a certain someone infamously did back in 2000. They need to stop swinging for the damn fences every at bat. Sadly, that's what this offense reminds me of too, except we can't even hit good in the regular season. Imagine the playoffs. Is it possible to win games without scoring runs?? Let's hope so or else the White Sox are in trouble.

I woulda gone to jail too if my younger brother wasn't there. Instead, I just decided to kick his ass when we got home for rooting for the Red Sox. And the "Let's Go Red Sox" got on my damn nerves.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:54 PM) If PK is a verb now, I'd figure it to equate to pulling the ball. I really don't remember Gooch pulling the ball, ever. That's because you have to get contact on the ball to pull it. He's trying to pull it though and he isn't trying for opposite field. Plus, he can't hit a curve if it depended on his life.

I would like to see a platoon or see Iguchi given a couple of days off. I'm a big fan of Willie, but I can't give up on Iguchi yet. He needs to see that he shouldn't be PK'ing the ball and also, he needs to learn how to hit a curve. Willie, believe it or not, could teach Iguchi some things and vice versa. They should hang out with each other a lot more.

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:38 PM) By the way...I know there's a Crede club, but who wants to join mine? Its a supporters one. Sign me up.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:23 PM) In my car on the way home, I was begging Ozzie to take Buehrle out before the 7th inning. You knew that those guys, seeing him for the 4th time, would likely not go down quietly. Ozzie ALWAYS leaves his starting pitchers in until it's definite that they shouldn't be out there. Ozzie is hands-down the Manager of the Year so far, but he just doesn't have a good feel for when a pitcher is done with, and needs to get taken out BEFORE the runs come. That's how I feel on Ozzie as well.

QUOTE(Leonard Zelig @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:19 PM) Boston is a bad hitting team? I'm saying he shouldn't be giving up hits like fat people are in line for getting free cake samples. It was happening all night and a big inning was inevitable. I would be fine if he was just rocked in the 4th or some other inning, but the whole night when Buehrle was pitching, you knew the big inning was coming and you just hoped Ozzie would take him out in time.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) f***ing Christ. I was at the game tonight, my father to my left, and BAWSTON fans everywhere else in my f***ing section (112) Holy s***, these f***ers are annoying. Let me play out a situation and their reaction. There is a man on first, the guy batting grounds to short short... uribe makes a decent play to get the lead runner at second, then the throw to first is a hair late. The whole f***ing section goes nuts! You would think that the RED SAWKS had just hit the homerun to win the world series. Nothing important happened on the play except for the out at second. Also, those bastards jumped and flipped out everytime Ortiz hit a popout; they are worse than cubs fans and Chip Carrey praying for homeruns. The absolute most annoying thing was the four pricks in the rows in front of me, some old, near death tramp, some middle-aged douche bag man, and then two mid twenties women... each with their NESN signs that say in some different way how the "Biggest Red Sawks Fan in the world ended up living in Barrington or some s***," and everytime there was a break in play, they would stand up and smile next to the sign, dying to get on television somewhere in Boston. My God, these people are a bunch of fruits, and to be honest, did not know much about the game tonight, nor care. Bandwagoners, and regular Red Sox fans are all f***ing annoying!!! - not to mention the fact that we had to frickin' blow that one... geez what a way to end it. I am so glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. Seriously, they were worst than Cubs fans. That's no hyperbole, that's the truth. Seems like those b****es were having one huge orgy everytime a Boston player swung.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:12 PM) Iguchi should be thankful for the awful Willie Harris game against the A's before the break. It made people praise him for being able to get the runner over to 3rd with less than one out. However, Iguchi has been getting in the habit of just hitting grounders to 2nd base lately, and we're giving up the out to advance the runner. Instead of basically playing smallball, I'd rather see the Sox try to put big innings together. Iguchi is batting a little over .200 this month. In no way am I giving up on him, but he's become overrated on this site. Iguchi and Uribe's defense have become overrated, and Dye and Everett's offense has been underrated. Dye basically carried this team for 30 games. I agree completely.

Knuckle ball means we should bench PK, but that won't happen which means, our O will be shut down.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 10:48 PM) Like I said in an earlier post this team is too much like the 2000 team. It's just too easy to shut our offense down. Very true. What's our record with big crowds, cas it doesn't seem good at all. I guess when all the flashes are popping and the crowds are there, the team shuts down. Also, it was nice to see fans there, but from where I was sitting(RF 108) it didn't seem loud at all except for when Timo threw out that guy at 3rd and that was until the whole crowd realize the run still counted.

Instead of reading this thread, I just decided to put my rant in here(it's better than making another thread). I just got back from the game. I was really really pissed. I was hoping I sat in the UD at the end of it so I could throw my brother off of it since he was a Red Sox fan and a gloating one at that. Couple of things: Buehrle needs to show me that he can go out and beat bad hitting clubs. All of tonight was horrible, from the first pitch. When he actually got ahead of hitters(0-2, 1-2 counts) you knew after the 3rd that the guy would get a hit. And they proceeded to hit him and hit him hard. This isn't the playoffs yet and he needs to learn how to buckle down like a true ace. He's our guy, so he needs to be able to make 5 runs into a win. Iguchi is just lost. Couldn't turn a couple of DP's quick enough(what happened to that fast arm?). His offense is really sucking and it looks like he has caught PK-itis. Pull and hope for the best. His only hit was an an opposite field hit. Gee, I wonder where I should be aiming at. Trot Nixon never shifted right at all for whoever came up to bat. Joe Crede, I love you and I love how you got a clutch hit, but you need to catch that ball. As soon as he dropped it, I said, "f***, now he's probably going to make us pay with a HR." And it happened. C'mon Crede, I want you to be a part of this team, not only this seaosn, but the future and with a defensive play like that, it makes management and fans wonder. Pitching and defense is what this whole team is built on. Well we had 3 errors and our pitching gave up 6 runs. Not going to win that way. Ozzie needs to learn that Viz is not a 2IP. Use guys strictly one inning. Get it, got it, good "su-chi" man. Last but not least, offensively this team needs to get back to what it was doing at the beggining of the season. Pods doesn't nearly bunt as much(yes I saw him try on 0-1 pitches when you should try straight out of the gate). Iguchi has caught PK-itis like I said earlier and Carl Everett looks like the only guy not lost at the plate. Oh AJ, how I want your offense to show up one day. Uribe, well I just lost hope on you. Timo is a better hitter than you and it's not even close.

I thought that it was changed and George Lopez and Jermaine Dupri were going to be there.

Fla would probably do Burnett for Wood. Maybe a prospect or two would have to be added into the deal from the Cubs side, but Burnett is basically the uninjured version of Wood.

Crap, figures. Big series against the defending champs and the injury bug hits us big time. And bug bites could take you out. I once got bit in the neck by a spider I believe it was and I couldn't move my left shoulder at all for a good week or two.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) geez, one would think you were jose's mother... Contreras, it seems, has had the curse that Matt Clement had with the Cubs last season... his team's bats just seem to go to sleep on him. He has been decent. My thoughts exactly. He should have way more wins than he has right now.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) 60% chance of rain... boy id be pissed if tonight was rained out. O it better not be. I'ma be really pissed if it is.

I'm encouraged by his last two performances. He's attacking the K zone and getting ahead in counts. That's what we need from him. Tuesday, he just got beat. Nothing we could do about that. Our offense is what I'm worried about. Everyone besides Pods are not hitting their averages this year.