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I don't necessarily care about these kids being workout warriors to get an edge, but while they are navigating these age 19-22 years, I'd much rather them be a workout warrior than not taking their diet or offseason as seriously.

I don’t think he’ll get more than a minor league deal and I’d be fine giving that.

Bruce Levine piping in has me more confident than ever this deal is dead. Sorry but last week we heard they had deals good enough to bring to ownership, and it didn’t happen. Now they are still waiting for a deal they like? It ain’t happening, this thing is dead. At least from White Sox perspective.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 03:53 PM) They're throwing 13M people off of insurance tomorrow and crippling the individual markets nationwide. They've let CHIP expire and appear to be in absolutely no hurry to do anything about that. Yes, what balta said, and yeah literally all they were able to do was remove a tax in the bill that they spent 6 years talking about how they would throw it out, and they were only able to do it in the reference of a tax bill. Letting CHIP go on, sure, but it's not the same thing. The idea that they will be able to cobble up the votes to cut medicare and medicaid in a way that seriously restructures program is laughable. The GOP came to power with a majority in house, senate and presidency and passed a deficit busting give away to corporations and the rich is the most likely scenario ever. They did it without a single dem vote and needing the bare minimum in the house. The idea that they will now be able to do entitlement reform now? Come on.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) They'll use the billions they're giving away to billionaires as an excuse to cut social programs, health care programs, education, etc. anyway. They've been very explicit about this already. They have been able to accomplish absolutely zero of the "hard things" like this. I know this will still require a lot of effort on people to stop it, but their whole love of cutting back costs was just to give it to rich people. But when push comes to shove the giving money to rich people is goal number one. They can go home now having "accomplished" health care (what everyone hated was that it taxed rich people right?" and solved entitlements (the tax cuts will bring in so much revenue no entitlements will be needed so we are good)

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) MLB Trade Rumors‏ @mlbtraderumors 38m38 minutes ago #SFGiants make their first MLB addition of the offseason, re-signing catcher Nick Hundley: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/giants-sign-nick-hundley.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...-hundley.html …://https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017...-hundley.html … Poor giants, though with the way FA is going, they might be able to clean up with a bunch of guys in January.

Said it in the minor news and notes thread, but nice knowing our bigger prospects like Robert and Kopech are spending offseason busting their ass instead of showing up 30 lbs heavier. (...can they call Burger up? jk jk)

At the very least I'm glad some of the dumber pay-fors were removed.

The Rams becoming awesome as soon as he left is a great endorsement of his coaching.

Ralph, i.e. Jim Bowden (https://deadspin.com/jim-bowden-caught-stealing-from-fake-twitter-account-d-1614081824) is claiming to know things that seem concievable https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM/status/943167265108824066 Jim Bowden ‏ @JimBowdenGM 31m31 minutes ago More 8 teams have made trade offers to the Orioles for Manny Machado but sources doubt that ownership will approve a trade even if recommended by GM Dan Duquette edit: obviously seems realistic but also Jim Bowden doesn't have sources.

DVOA is, imo, the best team metrics. edit: I'm not advocating Capers is great, but the Fangio love has been misplaced. Fangio is really good at red zone scoring defense. But a lot of drives end up in the red zone, our drive success rate is like 19th or 20th. It obviously does what Fox loves, which is let the opponents do long ass drives that end up in a field goal so despite being dominated we have a chance to win at the end, but this has been an average defense and I don't buy the talent being low on our defense.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 19, 2017 -> 10:04 AM) Packers' defense is horrible and a lot of GB fans seem to be fed up with Capers. Packers a whole 2 spots behind Chicago in DVOA rankings. Bears 14th Packers 16th. And just a reminder that the bears have a head coach that tries to play a very slow pace to reduce the number of overall possessions.

I have a lot of hope for that 2016 Lat Am class. Much less for the 2015 guys. That said, we do need a bunch of high schoolers, and we are in much better position to do it than last year at #10.

I don't understand the Fangio love. I know many feel bears overperformed, but I really liked that defense this year. They are, at best, exactly where they should be. They haven't overperformed with Fangio once. There was actually quite a bit of talent on our defense, especially up front. And they are fine.

I know I talk crap about Luis Roberts IG feed a lot but good lord at least we don’t have to worry about him reporting overweight. Dude is ripped.

Good lord

I think the type of team that would make most sense would be a team like the Nationals, consistently there, window about to be closing, one last push to make a WS. But, obviously they aren't and their roster doesn't make sense. The cards are the other team that could make sense, but they clearly still see their team and roles as one that is consistently competitive and aren't going to risk it. The Yankees aren't in that mold but make sense in that they were nearly a WS team last year and expect to bid on his services the year thereafter. So, again, I think it sucks for the orioles market right now because it's a bunch of teams that are basically telling the orioles that his 2018 production means nothing to them so they aren't going to pay that much for it.

I think Eric's stoner think is kinda funny on podcasts but yeah Kiley was better.

Interested to see how Eric and Kiley work together. Really enjoy both. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/hello-again/ Kiley had been in the Braves FO and I guess decided to leave. Considering the downward pressure to relieve scouts and cross checkers maybe he found a subscription funded site was the better option. edit: should be clear EL is still the lead prospect writer per KM, he sounds like he'll be more of an at large writer who will help with prospects.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 18, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) The fact that this deal window was supposedly in hours, and now is going on a week tells me that Angelos is having second thoughts. I think no deal gets done with Machado until the tax deadline. Same. In my many years following white sox rumors, if there was a sudden rush of rumors we were in the lead to acquire a player, and then a week of silence, that typically means the deal ain't happening. Or if we were initially mentioned then mentioned less and less. I feel much better now, I would be shocked if we were still leading this rush.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 18, 2017 -> 09:19 AM) And Lea shoudl have died in space. Having her "fly" back was garbage. A movie with most of the rebel force dying should have been darker, and more hopeless than what was presented. Agreed. at this point, their hope is a coup right? Like, you can't tell me the next movie there is a rebel army still fighting. You have to be like "Rey was training and working on the art of persuasion to get Kylo Ren to turn over his empire back to democracy"

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 11:25 PM) The reasoning is that he saw it during one of their force connections. I don't believe it, though, and I think it gets revealed in #9 that she actually has a significant lineage. Right. One thought I had is Snoke could have planted that vision, making Kylo Ren less "attached" to Rey and more able to kill her if needed. He had struggled to kill family before. That was actually one of the better choices I thought Rian Johnson made because it did lead to intrigue. They really just need to tighten up the scripts. And for the love of god cut ties with that awful character from the cantina in TFA. As bad as the casino was, the cantina scene was still worse. I think the casino at least tried to tell a story of the normal people of the galaxy, a response I think to another planet being blown up without any "human" cost.

Very disappointed. Had one of the higher point totals of the year...opponent had highest. 190 against. No other game happening had more than 100.

That we aren’t mentioned and he said almost every team is in makes me feel better.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 17, 2017 -> 09:52 PM) I agree. Although I also don't really believe Kylo. I think he was just trying to hurt her and get to her to let go of any loyalty she has to the Jedi history. I agree.