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I would rather watch Khalid El Amin in the back court than watch either Lopez brother play basketball. It's like convincing me Joe Johnson isn't that bad. He is certainly tall and can rebound, but they make me hate the sport of basketball.

Clearly Butler didn't put them int he top third or else they would have been in the top third last year. I don't understand the "they would have spent it on worse" Don't worry about them taking on long term crap contract for a short term crap contract, they are so inept they'd spend it even worse next year! No reason to complain.

Hawks are apparently needing to just give away their 2 first round picks. Seems like something to kick tires on. They can't take the salary.

Can't decide who will be the more miserable team to watch next year, the chicago bulls or the brooklyn nets.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) Taj, Portis, McDermott and Mirotic. Other than Carmelo and Porzingis, who does New York have? Derrick Williams averaged as many ppg as Doug Mcdermott. He isn't a good player. Portis has promise, he was not a good player. New York also has Arron Afflalo. Rose Afflalo Anthony Porzingis C That's probably outperforming anything bulls have. Mirotic and McDermott are names to everyone else but bulls fans. Taj is great. BUt again, we didn't make the playoffs last year in the EAST. WIth Jimmy Butler. With Rose. With that "stacked" supporting class.

Here you guys go, here's the great trade that had to be done. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jd95om7 Check out that sweet money transfer.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) Come on now, at least the Bulls have some complimentary players to start/come off the bench. LOL who

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:38 PM) Does this free up cap space or something? Oh, you'd think so. BUt no, Calderon and Lopez were on New York Knick contracts. Calderon is FA after this but mr. Lopez is not. But Rose was so terrible we need to take on even worse players on longer contracts. Is Lopez or Calderon from Iowa?

If Robin Lopez is the 2nd best player on your roster, you are the New York Knicks guys. We did it!

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 02:33 PM) What else are you getting for Rose though? If anything you're being nice by giving the guy a fresh start, in a big market, with a year left to get his next big contract. I wonder if they see Grant as someone that can develop? Did anyone see him play last year? A negative move is better. Rose, flaws and all, is better and in a better place in his contract than any of the bulls*** they just received.

Would be surprised if Jerian Grant outperforms Justin Holiday.

Derrick rose was a FA after this year. There is no need to trade him to take on a bunch of multi year terrible players. Derrick Rose is so bad we have to cut bait, well, guess what that looks calderon – grant – dinwiddie butler – snell dunleavy – doug taj – niko lopez – portis with cap spaced a 14th pick. blow this motherf***er up all the way Are you better next year? This is a terrible move by a front office now showing they may even be stupider than Bryan COlangelo.

This was not the right move. Lopez and calderon are signed to multi year deals. This was a garbage move by a bunch of terrible executives. This is a terrible trade.

If you thought Reinsdorf's managing of the modern sox is bad, just look at the bulls to feel better.

Ugh, if you were wondering how depressin gthe bulls franchise is right now, that's a great example.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 12:48 PM) lmao, you keep refuting points with stats

As much as I hate everything about the state of the franchise, if you take lumps this year you are still entering 2018 with some promise. Rebuilding in basketball is just not the same.

George Hill continues to net great returns.

Chicago White Sox ✔ @whitesox The #WhiteSox have claimed right-handed pitcher Juan Minaya off waivers from Houston. He will be assigned to Class AAA Charlotte. http://www.baseball-reference.com/register...id=minaya001jua From: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/evaluating-...houston-astros/

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 11:41 AM) Have the Sox ever had a good player from the Dominican Republic developed through their system ? I don't know the history of Dominican baseball but it's safe to say they have made quite an impact on baseball for the last 50+years since the days of the Alou brothers and Rico Carty . Telling me that the Latin pipeline is growing for the Sox is like telling me they just got a new rotary phone when the rest of baseball is using cell phones. Well, for a time the white sox were quite successful. As both Magglio Ordonez and Carlos Lee were great finds from non-draft scouting. The Dave Wilder era was a literal lost decade, which only began getting cleaned up in 2013 with Marco Paddy. Those players are finally coming stateside with major positive ramifications.

So, probably gonna let this thread ride today for any more championship talk then close before the draft, just FYI.

AZ is going to be fun to follow this year.

Looked at the stats this morning. They kinda yada yada's how terrible Eads was after the fist pump chapter where he had a 1000 ops.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) .450 OBP?? Last I saw his OBP was .538.... You know, that's what I thought it was but figured I was wrong.

Yeah, but, best college hitter in the draft, 450 OBP. Don't have many of his kind. Can't wait for him to play.