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Defensively Kyrie-Waiters-James-Love Verajao (but realistically their backup C due to injury) is possibly worse than rockets with only 1 plus defender (James) Kyrie-Wiggins/James-TT-Verajao(but really backup C) is still not great. That would all really depend on Wiggins development. Kyrie still has yet to be as great as people assume he is, to me he's nothing more than a streaky shooter and capable ball handler on a bad team that increases his usage rate.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 03:37 PM) Does anyone know how the amnesty rule works in NHL? I imagine it's gonna happen in the next few years with Hossa. I believe if he retires early before 2021, the Hawks could face some major cap penalties. And the Crawford deal still sucks. You face cap penalties if a player retires early?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 04:34 PM) Kyrie's better than anything he ever had in Cleveland. Kyrie plus Wiggins

Kane/Toews/Hossa/Crow - roughly 50% of cap.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 04:10 PM) Basically that was taken by a dude on a message board right? What's the deal with Real GM anyway?? It looks like a message board to me....is it run by people with sources?? They have people with sources, sometimes they are true. On saturday they had "people with sources" who were saying they had friends that were partners at law firms in Chicago that Melo was coming to work out contract details on Sunday. So, yeah, not true.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 03:56 PM) The question is, whether the guy who broke the Kidd story has connections to people close to Melo or the Bulls. If it's true, it would have to be Melo camp letting it out. Bulls may not have been technically told, but Melo has ruled them out. These are one of these rumors I will tell myself is not true, but I'm sure it is.

I forgot what I was reading (since I've read the entire basketball internet past week), but Pacers are close to luxury tax and only made like 8 million last year. They really don't want to pay Lance more than 8 mill so more than that may not be matched (frontloading this offer might be interesting)

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 02:27 PM) The strikeout and walk rates are remarkably similar, but Quintana's LOB% is much lower than normal (career 74.2%, 69.7% right now), implying that if this were normalized, his ERA would be even lower. Plus park and league adjustments too. Are league adjustments really helping the AL this year?

So a month or so ago I believe NorthSide posted that what Trey was doing was good but not breakthrough. With his recent power, do people think he is ahead of development? What are things he needs to continue to show before moving to WS?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 01:52 AM) IF he turns out to be Jose Quintana, would that be an awful thing? Would it be awful? hell no. Was I hoping his potential of our highest draft pick in 25 years was still trending as a #1 before even throwing a pitch? Yes. Obviously it's meaningless, I just saw that and laughed.

So Samardzija has allowed less earned runs in more innings pitched, more ks, the same amount of walks and less hits, and obviously lower WHIP, and he is worth .6 less fWar this year?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 03:06 PM) I do not believe Quintana is better than Samardzija. He is more valuable and more of a guarantee going forward, but I do not believe he is better. Frankly, he may not be worse either, but I think it's crazy talk to say that Quintana is better than Samardzija. I'll accept the argument if you factor in age and control, but not straight up. I think sox fans, annoyed with the Sale comparisons, have weirdly now convinced themselves that Samardzija is garbage

I used to love Aaron Gray. Remember when he dropped 19 and 22 in 09 or something? When he was taking oops from Chris Paul that playoff series vs. Lakers? High comedy.

KC Johnson wrote that on Sunday.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 11:30 PM) This is exactly what I was saying. Teams with championship aspirations don't add Chandler Parsons at $12 mill per. That's that. If y'all are ok 50 wins and a 2nd round exit, which I'm not, then he's the guy you want. Obviously you know that I agree, but I'd still head into year a little excited. For 3 years this has been a poor jump shooting team, and the bulls will have addressed that by adding a single good shooter. Adding Parsons, McDermott and mirotic would be first time we'd have multiple space opening options. Add in what you would hope to be an improved Snell, and that's a different offensive look.

Well yes. I hope when Derrick is up for signing an extension, he is back to all star form, and takes a discount after the past 2.5 years of not playing.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 09:36 PM) The Astros took a guy that many felt was the best arm with the highest ceiling in the draft, found out that he may have some injury concerns after initially agreeing to a $6.5 million deal, and are still saying to him "look, we're still willing to give you $5 mill, which we believe is more than fair." I don't see anything questionable with what the Astros have done. Exactly, I'm not sure of their other issues, but any other sport and this would have been a known issue prior to the draft. Him continuing to get 5 million is a win for the players union I guess.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 11:34 PM) Hinrich would love to be paid $5 million a year to be kinda bad at basketball. I don't think he cares where he's playing. Right, but this part: It would be fully unguaranteed in the two subsequent seasons, a la Keith Bogans, and thus not impinging at all on the 2015 free agency plan.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 11:26 PM) He can shoot and space the floor for us. Sure, he's not Melo or Kevin Love, but he'll contribute offensively with his shooting and he can probably be a decent defender under Thibs given his size and athleticism. He absolutely is all of that, but he'd be a guaranteed 4 year 48 mill contract. That will severely limit the bulls going forward from being rumored to land the next superstar whom will spurn us. edited for clarity to show 12 million per year

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 11:30 PM) That does help the Knicks quite a bit in terms of the tax next year. That trade does look pretty ridiculous though lol. I mean, the main difference here is the waiving of boozer. WOuld Hinrich do this? That's the wrench I do not know.

The incomparable Mark Deeks: http://www.hoop365.com/nba/eastern-confere...an-get-carmelo/ Must-read.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 11:13 PM) s***, I'd be all for the Bulls signing him to an offer sheet. You potentially get the guy and you burn the Rockets for taking advantage of a bulls*** loophole I'm not sure I want a $12mil/yr Chandler Parsons. I like him though.

Wow that's crazy. Good luck Avisail.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 10:00 PM) The hold up is presumably that they keep asking guys like Bosh to take less and less, while teams like Houston are telling Bosh theyll give him the moon. Meanwhile Lebron seems in no rush to actually commit to Miami, which has to leave Bosh wondering what is going on. Will be hilarious though if Parsons agrees to offer sheet on day 1 of free agency to mavs (rumored to be hot on his heels) which severely restricts their cap space immediately. Also depends on dumping Lin.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 10:27 PM) Would the Cavs be crazy enough to trade Wiggins for Love? They apparently offered #1 pick, but lack of guarantee from Love to re-sign killed deal. So, don't see why that's crazy.