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QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 07:59 PM) will it though? yes in theory they'll bear the same weight, but in a national popular votes the candidates will be in: NYC, LA, Chicago, Seattle, Houston, Dallas, Columbus, Cleveland, St. Louis, DC, etc etc etc - they won't give a crap about North Dakota, and thus, I don't see it as being all that different in terms of everyone's vote "mattering". The candidates will just assume ND goes Red just as they do now. Senate and Presidential voting are two very different things. And the highest percentage of minorities exist in urban areas, thus the GOP candidates will have a MUCH harder time overcoming that obstacle. It's not a balanced playing field for both parties as it is now. As opposed to now, where candidates are in North Dakota non stop for their 1 electoral vote for a heavily red state.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 07:16 PM) In all honesty, the polls deserve as much credit for being spot on than Nate does. If some of the polls has been way off, so would have been his projections. Exactly, the only ones really off were Gallup and Ras.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 06:13 PM) Except there is a fundamental difference here. Baseball statistics are the result of play. Election projections are based on polls of what is going to happen. (past results versus future results, just in case you are missing the disconnect there) Those are polar opposite things there, unless you are trying to tell me that Nate Silver can predict baseball ABs, games, and seasons to somewhere between 98 and 100% accuracy. Exactly, Nate's new job is way easier. He's essentially just analyzing constant snapshots. Fivethirtyeight final "projection" was based off that day's polls.

I initially read Sprint bought US Cellular but they just bought a bunch of their markets in the midwest. We still have US Cellular likely on our stadium.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 06:14 PM) FWIW, I really liked Gary Johnson's platform and I've always favored democrats. Yeah? Big fan of the gold standard?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 06:05 PM) I just find it pretty humorous when Twitter would have looked very similar for liberals if it had been around in November 2000. I remember reading some of the same sorts of things on message boards back in the day. Especially on issues you agree with him on anyway. Absolutely, that's why I'm reveling.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 05:04 PM) I see your point, and that's the problem with the two party system. It's gotten to the point that it doesn't matter who the person is. It's what party they are aligned with. Well, I disagree. I think both parties have legitimate platforms with real policies.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 04:57 PM) No way, because he would never get on the ballot. That's the problem with the GOP right now. The vast majority of the party doesn't care (or care enough) about those social issues, but a very strong minority does. And that minority has a good hold on the primary elections. So you have to come off as extreme and then get back towards the middle come election time. But at that point you've already got quotes and video clips saying those extreme things, so it doesn't play with independents and moderate voters. Romney is closer to Obama than people think, especially on social issues. But like McCain he was forced to look much more extreme than he really is. Exactly. No reason R's should have lost Lugar's seat, but 14% of their electorate voted convincingly for a dude only 14% of the electorate wanted.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 04:42 PM) There were many I know whose position was "anyone but Obama". So to them it didn't matter who the GOP rolled up there, that's who was going to get their vote. But why not? These men leading are just leaders of policy. If they disagree with the policy, why would you want that person in charge? Overall who these men are mean a lot less than the institutions they run. Those people seem like they have a pretty good handle on how to vote to better their policy interests.

Morning Comrades. I'm very pleased with last night. My contention that if you aren't happy with Democrats you can still reform them while in power appears to have worked out. Some great new senators elected, and excellent state democratic wins.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 02:44 AM) It's over. ??

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Nov 7, 2012 -> 03:30 AM) No. Pretty much, i think he'd have to sweep nevada, colorado, iowa, florida and virginia? THat might be off.

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 11:46 PM) There are several reports coming from VA saying that turnout resembles 2008 if not greater, at least in terms of sheer numbers. I suppose we won't know for sure until the numbers come out though. I'm wondering if, sheer numbers terms, their growing population in nova is making up for dead loss.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:55 PM) And if he said things weren't looking so good, he woul have a hard time getting more votes. People like going with winners. Bandwagon fans isn't exclusive to sports. This. Karl Rove believes in this and has done it every year since 2000 (yes, in 2006, he said the republicans would keep all of their seats.)

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:36 PM) Edit: It's also pretty sad when you look at how much less people are voting (or expected to vote) for Obama than 4 years ago. A competent Republican candidate would have cleaned house in this election. Unfortunately, you have to sell your soul to the devil to get elected as the GOP candidate, even if you truly are more moderate. I really don't think it was Romney's faults. Incumbents have big advantages, but also, 2008 is not a year often recreated.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:08 PM) Not that were doomed. But making statements that hes only writing a victory speech. His campaign saying they are going to win big. Conversely, Obama is kind of being low key. As I said, it gives me pause. That's part of their strategy.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) yeah, that was just a horrible choice. Worse than any governor or Prez election I can ever remember. Truly needed an option for death. That absolutely has to be the worst election in my memory. Truly horrendous.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 12:27 AM) He should watch the game film of him last year vs Detroit when we beat them. He had incredible pocket awareness that game. The game before the game that our season ended. Sigh.

But Karl Rove's theory is that people like to vote for the winner, so acting like you are going to win will bring in some undecideds.

I have the unfortunate duo of being on a strict budget and trying to lose some weight before the wedding, both have sucked on the alcohol front. But tonight is a rough night, gonna do Jim Beam and diet ginger ale. Tasty!

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 07:18 PM) http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/electi...ard_661843.html LOLOLOL

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) To play devils advocate, it shows a vote of no confidence, and if enough of said voters stop showing up, it allows an entry point into the political system for a viable 3rd party. If 20% of the people vote, and 80% are no longer showing up...that's a pretty huge slice of pie another party can rise up and grab. Versus voting for the garbage we have now. But, I think it's fairly clear that people would just go after the 20% who aren't flakes. That's why every election is about medicare.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) But there's always numerous local and state elections and referendums. My father-in-law is the township commissioner where he lives, and he was just talking about how all of their programs focus very heavily on the seniors because that's who comes out and votes in off-year and spring elections. If more people from other demographics bothered to vote, local government would reflect their preferences more. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:44 PM) Both sides of this argument take very complex, multifaceted issues and break them down into basic nothingness to make a profound point, and both sides always fail to convince anyone. Well, fine, but unless that person can convince me that they do anything to try and break the system of corruptness, I'm going to assume they just post their righteousness on a social networking site and then turn on Halo.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:23 PM) I actually like the message a lot. Your civic duty is way bigger than just showing up at the polls every four years, though we can't even seem to handle that. While I get that, it's vote AND do this. Politicians don't look at voting numbers and thing, oh the voting population is lower than last year. They think "holy crap, I need to get another 3% of the people that actually vote!". And I've found that many of the people that preach that bulls*** don't actually take part in the day to day anyways. They use the same excuse for everything. It's righteous bulls***. It's amazing, democracy is. On this day a coal miner, a day trader and an electrician took part in the decisions of a country. That's still cool even today.