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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:55 PM) And if he said things weren't looking so good, he woul have a hard time getting more votes. People like going with winners. Bandwagon fans isn't exclusive to sports. This. Karl Rove believes in this and has done it every year since 2000 (yes, in 2006, he said the republicans would keep all of their seats.)

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:36 PM) Edit: It's also pretty sad when you look at how much less people are voting (or expected to vote) for Obama than 4 years ago. A competent Republican candidate would have cleaned house in this election. Unfortunately, you have to sell your soul to the devil to get elected as the GOP candidate, even if you truly are more moderate. I really don't think it was Romney's faults. Incumbents have big advantages, but also, 2008 is not a year often recreated.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:08 PM) Not that were doomed. But making statements that hes only writing a victory speech. His campaign saying they are going to win big. Conversely, Obama is kind of being low key. As I said, it gives me pause. That's part of their strategy.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) yeah, that was just a horrible choice. Worse than any governor or Prez election I can ever remember. Truly needed an option for death. That absolutely has to be the worst election in my memory. Truly horrendous.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 12:27 AM) He should watch the game film of him last year vs Detroit when we beat them. He had incredible pocket awareness that game. The game before the game that our season ended. Sigh.

But Karl Rove's theory is that people like to vote for the winner, so acting like you are going to win will bring in some undecideds.

I have the unfortunate duo of being on a strict budget and trying to lose some weight before the wedding, both have sucked on the alcohol front. But tonight is a rough night, gonna do Jim Beam and diet ginger ale. Tasty!

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 07:18 PM) http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/electi...ard_661843.html LOLOLOL

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) To play devils advocate, it shows a vote of no confidence, and if enough of said voters stop showing up, it allows an entry point into the political system for a viable 3rd party. If 20% of the people vote, and 80% are no longer showing up...that's a pretty huge slice of pie another party can rise up and grab. Versus voting for the garbage we have now. But, I think it's fairly clear that people would just go after the 20% who aren't flakes. That's why every election is about medicare.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) But there's always numerous local and state elections and referendums. My father-in-law is the township commissioner where he lives, and he was just talking about how all of their programs focus very heavily on the seniors because that's who comes out and votes in off-year and spring elections. If more people from other demographics bothered to vote, local government would reflect their preferences more. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:44 PM) Both sides of this argument take very complex, multifaceted issues and break them down into basic nothingness to make a profound point, and both sides always fail to convince anyone. Well, fine, but unless that person can convince me that they do anything to try and break the system of corruptness, I'm going to assume they just post their righteousness on a social networking site and then turn on Halo.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 04:23 PM) I actually like the message a lot. Your civic duty is way bigger than just showing up at the polls every four years, though we can't even seem to handle that. While I get that, it's vote AND do this. Politicians don't look at voting numbers and thing, oh the voting population is lower than last year. They think "holy crap, I need to get another 3% of the people that actually vote!". And I've found that many of the people that preach that bulls*** don't actually take part in the day to day anyways. They use the same excuse for everything. It's righteous bulls***. It's amazing, democracy is. On this day a coal miner, a day trader and an electrician took part in the decisions of a country. That's still cool even today.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 02:57 PM) Today's the day. What time do they start releasing actual numbers again? I think it is after West Coast polls close, right? They don't wait for Alaska and Hawaii, from what I recall. I don't think they wait until after west coast, it's after polls close per the state.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 01:18 AM) the question doesn't make much sense, or really give the voter an idea of what they are voting for. But the CTU was against it, so voted for it. I ended up voting for it. They made it seem like free cake, so free cake it is!

If there was ever a profession I don't mind saying they pay too much taxes, it's professional athletes. They're gonna be broke as hell in 10 years!

That was on the tribune "build your own ballot". I have received mailors for all ballot provisions but have never seen this. I'm not sure what it is.

Does anyone have insight to how this actually works? I couldn't find the tribs run down: ReferendumSHOULD THE STATE OF ILLINOIS PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE NORMAL COST OF PENSIONS FOR CHICAGO TEACHERS IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE STATE PAYS FOR THE NORMAL COST OF TEACHER PENSIONS IN EVERY OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE WHICH WILL FREE UP LOCAL FUNDING THAT CAN BE INVESTED IN THE CLASSROOM?

QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 07:11 PM) CNN was basically right on last time. By "Right On" you are of course talking about the hologram Will. I. Am. correct?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 08:25 PM) Even if you don't vote for President, there are still numerous other races on the state and local level. Exactly. Greg, you're life will be significantly more affected by your local rep and alderman than the president. Not voting on local bills is the reason why cities can get so corrupt. They'll cater to the constituencies that prove to show up. Hence, taxi cartels shutting down an adequate new service that employs a few hundred in Chicago.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 06:56 PM) Well Doug Martin was available later than most RB's and in a lot of league's leshoure wasn't drafted at all so it could happen. What I don't understand is after last week how anyone could have benched Doug Martin. It could happen, but it's pretty unlikely. Even if Martin was a late draft pick, he was still a starter. Teams in my league likely can't even flex an RB because of the lack of availability.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 07:19 PM) I have a hard time calling them the best team in football. Not when the offensive line is so inconsistent. It really is bad when it comes to pass protection. The penalties were awful and completely prevented them from getting any rhythm on certain drives. 3 of the 1st 4 drives you had big penalties that prevented them from getting going. Cutler settled in and had a great game. I think it's fair to say at this point that we need to upgrade both tackle positions. Carimi's pass protection is below average even if he is pretty good on the run.

I don't understand leagues that could have a team with 2 starting RBs on their bench.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 5, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) I agree...we can't ever slow down the long blonde-haired guy... We're also a terrible match-up with the Giants.

Mizzou played their hearts out. Tough one to come up short on. I'm going to give JF the benefit of the doubt, and say that he is just a broken QB right now. No doubt his shoulder is hurting his accuracy. But it sucks to lose a year to poor QB play after so many years of that being a strength.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 12:21 AM) There's two points to this. 1. Because of declining population behind the baby boomers, you will lose income and the related future value of earnings on the current funds. 2. If the government would quit stealing money out of it to fund general spending, it would certainly make a very large difference to this whole arguement. It could be made up with all of those people who want to come to america to work.