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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 05:41 PM) But Fannie and Freddie bought up those terrible sub-prime mortgages and were allowed to continue to do so by the congressional Dems. All i'm saying is it's not exactly honest of Biden to point to Ryan and say "this is all on you guys." This was a problem that took decades to develop, even if the wars became a substantial cost later on. I understand that, but after that travesty of risk management by the worlds financial institutions, the republicans only response to the financial regulation bills was to make sure it didn't pass, and then put in a congressman to lead the house banking committee whose belief is the banks should regulate themselves. And also, lots of companies were buying up those terrible sub prime mortgages. BUT, I am against the democratic support of Frannie and Freddie and I do not believe they add value to the united states. However, I do not think the "it was wall street" " not it was exclusively these two banks that the democrats like" explain anything on the ridiculous behaviors that contributed to the global financial crisis.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 05:36 PM) Or Barney Frank, Obama and other congressional Dems allowing the sub-prime crists to happen: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212948811465427.html Fannie and Freddie had their part in the housing crisis. But a lot of things had their part in the housing crisis. The issue wasn't sub-prime themselves, it was the belief that there was no national housing market, and that wallstreet was safe as long as they diversified s***ty loans in florida with s***ty loans in arizona.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 05:28 PM) No, but their "owning a home is a right" mantra directly contributed to the housing bubble bursting in the midst of those wars. I don't recall the Dems exactly fighting Bush on the prescription drug plan either. And both parties have failed miserably in keeping Wall Street in check so.... yes, both are to blame for the recession. The republicans did a parlor trick to extend the voting deadline 15 minutes to whip more votes to get it done.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 04:12 PM) You mean the deal made and signed by GW Bush. Obama ended the war over 2 years into his own term, BECAUSE of a signed pact by President Bush (fact). Obama asked them (Iraq) if we could leave troops there AFTER that deadline. Read the HuffPost article. "President Obama wanted to stay longer -- as recently as a few weeks ago asking the Iraqi government to allow 10,000, then 3,000 troops to remain past New Year's Eve. But the president ultimately had no choice but to stick to candidate Obama's plan -- thanks, of all things, to an agreement signed by George W. Bush." But to be fair, that was an explicit part of the Obama stump and McCain vehemently disagreed about providing a deadline. In the middle of that Bush signed that pact because there was also urgency on the Iraqi side to do so. And that Obama oversaw that transition and enforced it is something he should get credit for.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 03:24 PM) When Obama debated, I saw the moderator, the altitude, global warming, and even that Obama lost on purpose to make better commercials as excuses for why he didn't debate well. Sure you did.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) I can't really speak for anyone else...but if you posed me the following question, "Are you doing better now than you were four years ago?", the answer is yes, with a few 'strings' attached. If it wasn't for the ever rising local taxes, fees, stickers, etc...I'd be doing better, but with them, I'm not. I don't blame the Obama administration for this, either. I suppose you could, if he'd been more successful getting more stimulus he could have plugged that into local governments to cover their tax shortfalls. Romney 2012!

Ryan please answer a question on Romney's opinion on how to deal with a detroit. "Romney loves cars. One time he helped out a family that got injured in a car crash. I believe that answers your question."

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) The top 10% are paying 45% of taxes. 47% pay nothing at all. The system is not progressive. That makes absolute sense to me. 47% pay no income taxes at all. Not no taxes.

I find it irresponsible that the NFL would let the skins play RGIII 7 days after a concussion

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Oct 10, 2012 -> 03:42 PM) The dude has played 21,000 minutes and 634 NBA games. I don't need preseason know exactly what he is, and that is something I don't enjoy watching play basketball. hahaha

It doesn't make SS2k5's point interesting. It's not like "Government job" is one entity. These would be hundreds of state local and federal agencies reporting. The monthly data's first number is rarely accurate. It's a lot of data to put together in one week, so they do revisions. They didn't start doing this in September 2012. But also, July Aug woudl feature a lot of seasonal teacher hiring. If you look at the past year of data it's clear the seasonal adjustments aren't amazingly accurate. But nonetheless, for the first time in 2 years the public sector hadn't negated some of the private gains. That's a good thing for the recovery.

Mizzou is going to be a fun experiment this year. Loads of experienced talent that have not played very long together. Pressey, Dixon, Bowers, Oriakhi is a good core. Then you have Criswell Keion Bell Earnest Ross and Jabari Brown (December). Lots of talent there and Bell and Ross luckily practiced with the team all year. But anything could happen. Maybe they'll even get out of the first round.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 9, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) I like the headphone jack on the top, alot. Agreed, the old ipod touches that had it on the bottom really pissed me off.

tony mitchell.

Couldn't you just use bump to do it on an iphone?

Eh, it's really hard to win 5 games in a row in the NFL. You have to have the falcons up there.

Chris Berman will buy all 1200 seats.

I can't believe how bad my team is. Both my teams, actually. Also I've come up against the bears d buzz saw for in 2 leagues in consecutive weeks. Not fair.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 8, 2012 -> 04:00 PM) Jeffrey is getting an Xray on his hand. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...0,7142185.story Yeah it looked like he was hurting on that grab. I like that he thinks its' nothing, but I haven't seen anyone whose hands swell like that if it isn't a big deal.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Oct 6, 2012 -> 02:16 AM) 143k/mo is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMGZZZZZZZZZZZ DORRRRRRRRRRIUULSSSS! OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA@@!@@$ f***ing sheeple. A real recovery would have 5X that much per month, but alas, you're all brainwashed into thinking that this is WONDERFUL - right before the election. If I can predict what was going to happen a year ago, and I'm supposed to be the stupid one, WTF does that make you all? Brainwashed. oh hey it's kapkometbot.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 10:32 PM) I think once the rosters expanded he had too many toys to work with When the rosters expanded he just had a bunch of terrible players.

Teague will never see the floor. PGs take a while to develop, especially one as raw as him, but in the NBA players don't tend to develop on the bench.

Eh, if it was one of the original NATO members there would be no doubt.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 08:33 PM) He'd do good for himself to play for Tom Izzo. He's also be close to home, and Izzo has a good history with Chicago recruits.

QUOTE (Jake @ Oct 5, 2012 -> 09:39 PM) A separate government survey of companies and government agencies showed they added 114,000 jobs in September. And it turns out that 86,000 more jobs were added in July and August than the government had initially estimated. Is this not an aggregate number of "companies" and "government agencies?" It also shows that federal, state and local governments added 10,000 jobs in September and a revised 63,000 jobs combined in July and August. The government’s initial estimates had shown government job losses for July and August So the government hiring 73,000 in the past three months = most? I'm willing to have read these wrong, I just don't see it It says we averaged 146,000 jobs created PER MONTH over the past three months....meaning 73,000/438,000 over the past three months are government jobs....? He was talking about the august and july revisions.