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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 11:00 PM) Taking student performance out of the equation they are still grossly overcompensated in my mind. I ma not talking just salary but the whole benefits package of teachers in the state of Illinois is bloated. It's really the pensions that kill everything. You can't grow the teacher force without further compounding an issue.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 11:08 PM) Anonymous isn't really a group. It's a meme referring to the anonymity granted to a user of the internet. Reading that makes me want to kill myself.

Kinda nervous about completely banged up Oline going up against arizona state this weekend. Really hate losing Fischer.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 10:25 PM) What conclusion should I be reaching? I didnt make the post, I just simply asked where it was going because I was interested. Since you seem to know the answer, why dont you enlighten me. A higher % of low-income classified kids is a higher batch of kids with quite a bit less resources. Worse nutrition, worse home conditions, less parental help on homework, parents who are there less to help develop their kids at an early age with reading, etc etc. They are typically further behind when they get to school, and fall further behind when they leave school. Go look at chicago magazines "top public high schools", it's no surprise that the ones they champion are those with 2-3% low-income. It's no different than colleges "improving" by changing their inputs rather than improving their teaching. Being from a low income area doesn't mean you are stupid, but it does often mean you need to play catch-up and need more attention. CPS teachers have and do a hell of a job. But they need to realize the city could be pushed to default, which will not only mean good-bye pensions, it means an awful lot of pain for the students they'd teach. This city is a city pretty stretched on taxes. There's not a lot more to go.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 10:12 PM) Where is that argument going? Poor people arent smart? Don't be dense.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 08:48 PM) To be perfectly fair to the teachers (of whom I know plenty, I'm a product of the CPS system), the top complaint isn't their salaries, rather it is class sizes and overall working conditions/environments for the students. I know they love this talking point, but the majority of the money going to the schools is ending up in their hands. If they brought a budget to the CPS taht said "okay, we won't take a raise as long as you promise to decrease class sizes and add desks" you don't think CPS would be all over that?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 06:39 PM) I find it disheartening that the typical response to one group of workers having comparatively better wages, benefits, employment protections and bargaining power is for other groups of workers to tear them down, to decry them for not suffering like the rest of us. Well, they can largely look inward for why that happened.

God damn it. Dunn's diagnosis sounds just like what he said after his appendicitis.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 9, 2012 -> 10:25 PM) Come on you White Sox show a fight, win this game! It's been done before. Show fight? It's september! They'll just act tired and slowly drift away.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Sep 9, 2012 -> 09:19 PM) And the wheels come off It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Same s***, different year.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 9, 2012 -> 04:21 PM) Stevie Johnson or Shonne Greene in a PPR? Stevie isnt 100% and will be on Revis island. No to Johnson. Ba hammy isn't a good injury for a receiver

well that sucked.

Occasionally I remember whose on the bulls next year and start to tear up.

the foster GTD was goodnews, thanks for your help everyone.

I'm in a tough spot this week. In my auction league i do not have good early depth at RB, I have good depth if some RBs go down. This weekend: AP or Ben Tate?

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I've said it before I'll say it again, I've interviewed at a lot of companies, and a lot of those companies the senior management has had english degrees or odd degrees. This whole "you need a degree in business to be a part of a business" is garbage. But I love how we are blaming laziness as the reason unemployment is 8.1 percent. Not the unbelievable amount of private debt that was accumalated in the 00s by a different generation.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 04:33 PM) Wow, which is only what, like 3? You sir, are TERRIBLE luck! Well, really it was just 2/5 but they pissed me off enough that it feels like every game. And frankly, I shouldn't complain. The game against cleveland where we got an infield hit because there was a pop fly into the smoke monster was the highlight of my life.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 05:15 PM) Personally I can't complain. However, I've seen some pretty good and hard working people get laid off over the past few years and some have had hard times finding jobs. Are there people I know that are lazier, sure, but lazy people have found work at much higher rates in the past then now. A top performer is a top performer, but our economy and the unemployment #'s aren't based upon top performers. The way I see it, the % has always included lazy people and while I think to an extent, the younger generation is lazier (and I'm in that generation), I don't think it really explains the high unemployment because there were always those people. I'm also still young and developing though. I think if I were in a more seasoned position, that answer might be different. And I can flat out say businesses are struggling, places are struggling. Talk to sales people and I think most of them will tell you most of the customers they work with are still hurting. God a buddy who works in sales for Heinz. Makes pretty good money but everyone he calls is bleeding/hurting still. Grocery stores, fast food places, etc. Plus, we are more likely to know people with a college degree, whose unemployment rate has been largely manageable. Those without have seen much of the harder issues.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 03:30 PM) I have to ask, as I think we all know people in similar employment circumstances...how much of that is their own fault? I know I can't speak for everyone, but I'm doing better now than I ever have been...so to answer a oft repeated Republican talking point...are you better off now than 4 years ago? Yes, I am. And 4 years ago I was better off then that I was the 4 years prior to that. And so on... I got lucky getting my job and I've done very well since. But it was miserable being unemployed working at a potbellys getting $400 paychecks when I had $400 rent. My friends out of college have had some brutal luck. Getting a job one month and laid off a few months later when they lose a contract, etc. Moving all over the country for work. It's easy when you have a job to forget what it's like trying to get one. Also aren't you in IT and engineering? Not exactly a problem industry right now. Most of the losses have come from manufacturing and it hasn't come close to recovering (if ever).

I'll be there. Please no rain. Every game this year I've been in a rain delay.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 03:25 PM) 8.1% unemployment....that is bad, California at 10.7% and the actual real unemployment rate is significantly worse, imo. It blows my mind how many young people I know either can't get jobs or are getting minimum wage jobs. Pretty sad. Definitely makes me appreciate the opportunities my wife and I have had thus far in our young lives. There was like 187k removal from the workforce for agest 16-19 for this report. That's such a bizarre number I don't even know what to make of it. More going to college than traditional? More older workers taking food service jobs? For months now we get the ADP and weekly unemployment numbers and I think the NFP will be good and the NFP has not been close to good. If the winter speeds up again I'm not getting excited unless it's 300k a month. The seasonal adjusted numbers for winter just seem to be way off.

I don't understand how Greg isn't being interviewed by every news station in this country. I feel like he's the perfect median voter. edit: btw i don't want median voter to be considered a slight, it isn't. I just don't know that many people nowadays that were actually watching the convention for insight into the candidates.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 08:28 PM) I've seen a website or two where I can't tell if people realize that, but otherwise, do a lot of people pretend it will? I just find it funny the overemphasis on the day-to-day in political campaigns where the beltway acts like everyone is focusing on politics because all of their friends and neighbors do.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 08:04 PM) Why the hell aren't the people committing these crimes in juvenile facilities arrested and charged? Are these facilities being run by out of control animals? There are laws out there and if these facilities are all corrupt ... WTF is going on???? Get this problem fixed! Guards are sometimes the culprit.