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Definitely still pudgy, but fast as hell. Him and Wallace kept pushing the tempo and it got aldridge some nice match ups or easy buckets.

Did anyone watch the portland/lakers game last night? I always have loved watching portland play, but felton and wallace have made them a really fun team to watch. Add to that their great crowd and it was a really fun game.

oi.

You can cancel the post game show.

Very encouraging, obviously the more accurate #s could be revised down in 2 months, but very encouraging. After 3 years from college, happy to say finally that all of my friends have jobs. That is, not barista jobs, either.

I told my roommate at the start of 3rd OT the hawks wouldn't score a point, and knew i was right when Josh Smith started shooting 20 ft jumpers again

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 6, 2012 -> 01:43 AM) LeBron and Wade both out tonight vs Hawks Didn't they just play the hawks?

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jan 6, 2012 -> 12:38 AM) So.....has anyone reliable actually said anything about this? Heyman? Rosenthal? Anything other than a teenager with 12 followers on Twitter? no

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 6, 2012 -> 12:06 AM) Twitter handle of this guy is http://twitter.com/brboiler2013 Basically, he claims that his cousin is Gavin's wife, and his sister lives next door to them in Florida, and that's how he knows this is going down. Only thing that makes me question it is whether the player being traded would be told something as specific as "you and cash were traded to Toronto for Drabek and McGuire." Does a player always get told those kinds of details??? I have a hard time believing the players are privy to trade negotiations.

wow. i'm done.

We aided a revolt with air power, which the rebels were not capable of. But at what point would you say that Libya was at the point it could have lost control of their nuclear arsenal? Especially if in tripoli? It was at least 4-5 months after the airstrikes began.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 11:09 PM) Iraq openly cooperated with inspections prior to the invasion and nothing was found. Iraq was invaded for a variety of transparently-dumb-at-the-time reasons. If they really had nuclear weapons and the world knew, they probably wouldn't have been invaded. Libya was "invaded" once a massive internal revolution was well-underway with several cities taken by rebel forces. If they had nuclear weapons and threatened e.g. Italy with retaliation if NATO got involved, yeah, that would definitely have an impact on the decision to support the rebels. If they had nuclear weapons but it was becoming apparent that they were losing control of them, that introduces an entirely different dynamic. Indeed, it seems that we are willing to invade a country we don't like when the opportunity presents itself. Everything I've read has stated that the lesson iran has taken from this is that the mistakes made by both these countries is not that gave up their program or kept it, but rather that they just weren't successful in finishing it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 11:05 PM) What nearby states or allies did Libya have the ability to actually threaten? Do you have a map?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 09:54 PM) Nuclear-weapons-as-invasion-deterrence isn't where I'm taking exception, btw. It's that this lesson is learned from Libya instead of, say, Iraq. Saddam Hussein refused to show his nuclear progress and was invaded. Ghadaffi cooperated, and as soon as he was weak, he was invaded. What benefit do you see in Iran cooperating? I don't understand that you don't believe these things can act concurrently. Iraq was an example of what happens when you don't cooperate, while libya when you do. Well, it turns out it doesn't matter.

Are you being purposely obtuse? the development of nuclear weapons has been the strongest deterrent for attacks from other nations of the past century. If Libya had indeed continued to develop them in the 00s they would have been met with sanctions following the uprising but they most certainly would not have seen an airstrike against. Qaddafi was mad, and the airstrike was carried out by a number of countries. Libya didn't need to hit the US navy, or sell it to terrorists to smuggle into the united states or whatever other absolutely bizarre, albeit creative, scenarios you created, they could have merely threatened to use nuclear weapons against nearby states or allies. In what cost/benefit analysis do you see NATO going thru with an airstrike if it carried the potential of a nuclear attack. Would than not obliterate the argument that it was to protect human life. The nuclear weapon cannot be seen if not without the major deterrent effects it provides, in addition to respect.

Hey balta do me a favor and tell me how many countries with nuclear weapons we've conducted a multilateral attack on in the last century? How many countries without nuclear weapons have we attacked?

bestbuy is an awful experience nowadays.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 07:10 PM) "Using nuclear weapons on your own civilian opposition" doesn't seem like a practical strategy for holding on to a country. Deploying nuclear weapons against the Eastern part of his country might have prolongued his rule slightly, but it also would have destroyed it, since there's a whole lot of oil and economic resources in that area...and "Quadaffi nuked my parents" is probably a pretty good reason for you to lay down your arms if you're in the army. Nuclear weaponry would prevent a large, massed, Iraq-style invasion, but at some point we're all going to have to agree that would be completely nuts. I certainly didn't imply that he would deploy nukes on his own people.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 03:37 PM) Really? He was taken down internally. I don't see how a nuclear program would prevent an internal populist uprising. It would prevent that whole NATO airstrike plus CIA training campaign thing you seem to be forgetting about.

If you want to know one of the major consequences of Libya, see: Iran. They obviously now see Gaddaffi's move to scale back his nuclear ambitions in exchange for better favor among western leaders as THE move that lead to his downfall.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 5, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) Maybe Korver has just hit the wall and lost his touch? his shots are very flat right now, usually means something with his legs.

Agreed about Korver. He is playing so terribly right now and not hitting his 3s, so at this point, i'd rather have someone who can play D and help run the offense.

I obviously meant irremovable.

Great. Another player that if sucks will be untradeable.

ray allen? that s*** cray