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Clearly KW was sick of the Getz/Nix talk on ST forums.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 20, 2009 -> 05:06 PM) From 1999 to 2009, give or take, the equity markets were essentially unchanged. I believe that is the only 10 year period if its kind since the Depression. That is what he means by the Lost Decade. Historically, over longish periods of time, like 10+ years, you could rely on the broader markets to make you about 7 to 10% on equity year over year, with some variance if you played with the 10 years you picked. But zero gain, the complete loss of the equity premium, for 10 years, is unique. it's not unique if it's happened before.

He´s pretty good looking though.

With that contract and age and poor results I have to kind of laugh. How would he net them a good cleanup hitter? Time machine to 04?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 20, 2009 -> 01:00 AM) I know this is a message board. But is it really necessary to start a thread about every White Sox "rumor", no matter how ridiculous, that pops up on the net or in the papers? Well, we could always talk about how we shouldn't talk about things, that's always entertaining.

The problem I have rex is a big part of what duke said, in that there are no real laws. Reading PoliSci articles, for me, is maddening to the nth degree. One had a fairly convincing argument that tax funding for one program was used to skim off state budgets. And used to show that increasing federal funding for states didn't always lead to them applying that funding to anything other than deficits. And they couldn't even prove it! It was nothing more than a correlation, that at the end completely untied itself with it's admitted faults. And more, I'm so tired of reading political science articles that are mostly asking other people to create the data to definitively say what this p. scientist couldn't. I appreciate them trying to scientifically explain how government works, and I suppose I'm talking about an area different than others here, but to me it's a load of hogwash that I"m no better off reading way too often.

i just threw up looking at that lineup.

I've read some interesting polisci articles, but for the most part, no. They try, though. BUt no.

I don't think people realize how far ownership, especially who would have been in control of the cubs, and a section of their paper, like the sports section, really is.

I never really thought there was a bias, it was just us having to recognize that the cubs have a sizably larger portion of Chicago's fan base. Sun Times wasn't much better, ever.

I probably missed the party, but whatever, my internet sucks. Anyway, I think the problem with this story is that the soxtalk message board is so intuned that we understood the purpose of the story. After the original, "I came" messages that rightfully were posted (I participated), everyone knew a three way deal for Adrian Gonzalez would not get hammered out in a couple days. It would take time, it could fall apart, but for us this was what was interesting, and why I appreciated the story, and have a strong negative impression towards Cowley. 1. We have a GM that we are consistently unaware what will happen. We have an idea what our budget is (thanks to Kalapse, who posts an absolutely vital budget resource I've yet to find anywhere else) and that we're close to it. 2. We, as fans, know that we need a bat in this lineup. As presently constructed, we are awful on offense. 3. We know we finally have some legitimately attractive pieces to trade. We aren't even fooling ourselves with Broadway +Fields + crap for CABRERA!!!), Hudson is a legit prospect as is Flowers, J. Danks, etc. 4. We want to know if KW feels the same way. Regardless of the fact that this specific trade likely won't come to fruition, it gives us, the die hard, will post every day on the same topic fans, we learned a lot from this rumor, I'd say. 1. KW is more than likely looking to heavily upgrade our 1b/Dh/RF 2. Moving Konerko for financial flexibility is being explored 3. We are very interested in Adrian Gonzalez 4. By seeking a third team, we are looking for another team to share the burden of prospects, or help put together a better package. Now, the common fan might just hear this, disregard the semantics and say OMG GONZALEZ, or who is Adrian Gonzalez, and a busy reporter might just say "no way it happens, don't need to report", or, they already have Kendry, etc. Blah blah, ignoring DH. Whatever. And maybe that's where this ran into trouble. But for me, and a lot of other fans on this sight, this provided legitimate insight into the offseason, irregardless if it died quickly. This, obviously would be a complicated deal EASILY held up by money. But I don't think the GMJ speculations would be that far off in this hypothetical. I mean, Angels parting with a bad contract, getting a 1 yr deal DH that isn't a great contract but better than GMJs, it makes sense why they were approached in this deal. But I understand Cowley is too busy beating his chest. I realize he's in a competitive industry and has one of about 50 jobs. But, his response was ridiculous, and if he honestly thinks marginalizing a sizeable potential audience for him is a good idea, I won't have any problem with schadenfreude when the ST goes bankrupt and he's watching Star Trek in his parents basement blogging about the White Sox. In fact, I'll be the first to say Ha! Ha!

Oh, now I see why the republicans are so flabbergasted obama hasn't yet made a decision that affects American's lives in Afghanistan. All Bush had to do was ask God (or Kristol or Cheney, depending which God he was talking to), Obama is actually going through different options.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 11:59 PM) His beats are too busy for me. Like they'd give me a headache if I listen to them with headphones on. Going to see Brother Ali & Evidence at the Metro tonight. So excited. even on labor day?

Ah, a professional.

So, Sen. Sessions (R-backwater craziness), just had opening statements saying that these men (tha terrorists) were prisoners of war. WHAT THE HELL?!?! First they wanted them to be called enemy combatants to avoid the Geneva Convention, now they are saying they are POWs? What the hell is he talking about?

Anytime you are polling as pulling 40% or more of your base, that's popular.

She, being a former VP candidate, is clearly not going away. And she's making sure of it. I also think it's false to say she isn't popular among republicans. Clearly the numbers of people she draws are not democrats.

And this new consensus that our justice system is completely rigged for the defense is so hilariously false.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 06:40 AM) Flowers got busted for PED's as a minor leaguer. ah. Well, then, yes, I'd say nicknaming yourself is worse than steroids.

I always assume they pick a party for funding or to benefit from an area where straight ticket voting occurs.

Well, to be fair, greenwald went on a rampage because only a certain number of suspects were chosen for public trial. Many others are still kind of in limbo. So I'm thinking he has a pretty tight seal on these cases. These men are being tried because their verdict is certain. It's not exactly a true symbol of our legal system, but, whatever, I just want them convicted and GITMO's jail shut down.

also funny, I just realized, is clearly my name is my first initial and first couple letters. Ah, it was self-hating.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 03:03 AM) So steroids = ok, nicknaming oneself = not ok? I'm on the record as some sort of steroids apologist?

Right, those are hypotheticals, but one, Holder clearly would not have held a trial if he didn't believe he had a convictable amount of evidence that wasn't gathered through torture (and, as has been documented extensively, there was a while he wasn't tortured and information was gathered). As for the technicality part, that's fairly absurd. BUt I'll reference a couple posts http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/...f_people_--.php http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives...nd-warriors.php There is not a chance in hell they get acquitted. But also, even if some charges they get off to on technical grounds, there are loads of charges they can be put on. That deferential to the gov't in terror cases is an understatement, cases with truly light evidence (liberty six, imo) still ended up in them getting substantial jail time.

Here's an absolutely vital article to read: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/comme...in-1821215.html If you guys want to talk about real news, I'm here.