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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 06:59 PM) Thin skin? Bad reading skills? poor eyesight? Do you really think that I and other haven't been called out on here? I guess the mind really sees only what it wants to see. I was not addressing you I see no reason for this response.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 07:07 PM) Hm. I don't think that's the case, as I try to call people out on their B.S. regardless of which side its on. For the record, I've had a lot of people on the right tell me quite the opposite of what you are saying - that I am quick to get on GOP'ers but let the lefties go. I like to think that if I get these complaints from both sides, I am probably doing my job right. But I will make sure to keep an eye on my responses going forward. I certainly am not trying to be biased in any way. Thank you.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 07:18 PM) With all due respect, NSS is one of the few nuetral people in here. If you are trying to make him into an enemy, you are barking up the wrong tree. If anything he has bent over backwards to let AHB, BS, and many other people in here take all of the rope they could handle. I think you have hurt feelings for being called out on stuff. I don't get hurt feelings on a message board and I've certainly never been correctly called out on anything. I've let the conservatives on this site fight proxy battles vs. me with their fantasy liberals in their head and that's fine, it's less interesting but it's to be expected. I'm merely asking NS - who along with lostfan seem to be the main moderators in this forum - to curtail what I feel to be far more personal attacks being made by controlled chaos and others, in addition to the easing on BigSqwert. You are trying to cut my legs out from under me by making my request more pointed and extreme than it was. It was nothing of the sort.

You shouldn't just leave like that without checkin in honey.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:00 PM) No, they're not "stupid", they're just perpetuating the divisions. THAT is what's stupid, not them. You're accusing someone of not being able to think for themself, whether or not that's what you are intending that's the effect.

I'm guessin constitutional party's baldwin or whatever.

Indeed. Indeed.

Not in 2004. He had very strong support.

Well, I disagree. If you knew it was a ludicrous statement why continue to post things like this? I'm personally sick of it and that's why I've decided to call it out. I realize personally attacking posters now makes me a hypocrite, but I don't think it's on an even plain. It's offensive to call people mindless Obama supporters, it's effectively calling them stupid. Most of the issues people take up on obama supporters on this site are in regards to their posts about McCain, the candidate, not the posters.

I think Obama by 4. You can sense the tightening but in the end Obama's GOTV ground game is so superior to McCain's right now it will be the difference.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 04:25 PM) The difference is, BS, even we people who tend to be "republicans" would defend GWB but would also call out his crap. And there's been a lot of it. This "I'm going to throw everything I can in people's face" stuff is just obscene. Is there any wonder that people have trouble with our political system, or, to say it another way, why everything is so polarized? GWB was a bad president. But to mock everything about a certain ideology is disgusting. BTW, I'm glad to know that the last 8 years can effect you so much. "It's been hell". Yikes. right, yes, no one in this forum has ever criticized Obama, there's never been threads specifically saying what we don't like about him, there was never a FISA thread with 100% of the Obama supporters in here pissed. That never happened... And by the way, northside, I respect how difficult it is to be a mod on this forum and I think you are doing a good job and you are a good poster. But you are incredibly one-sided on who you decide to take issue on. It's heavily slated towards talking down the Obama posters on here. When the conservative posters on here do one of their many personally attacking, offensive posts while crying about what a tough time they are having because of those damn obama supporters, your response is always a neutral, hey it's not everyone, i agree with you on x. When an Obama poster does something that never attacks a conservative poster but usually McCain or a conservative figure in a mocking light, ala AHB or in this case BigSwert, you are quick to ask them to stop.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:14 PM) LINK same thing I saw comparing his latest Columbus rally to Bush's in 04.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 02:33 AM) Not. If McCain had some old KKK guys or KKK sympathizers as friends and there was a mailer from the rainbow coalition sent to the black population saying you need to be concerned about these friends and then listed those friends. Then that would be a similar example. Once again in the typical defend "the one" at all costs attitude, you speak where you have no grounds to speak. If this is a valid concern for even pro Obama Jews, then it's certainly going to be highlighted by Republican Jews and rightfully so. Not everyone has this blind trust that you have. Some people have looked at Obama's associates and past words to make their decisions. Now if you see some lies in those flyers...feel free to point them out, but if you're just here to keep the halo shining bright above Obama's head...at all costs, save that for the concert at Grant Park. Stock up on Bics I'm sure you'll go through a few in the first 25 minutes. Yes, I just have to cry for the poor conservatives on this site who've had a tough time with Obama supporters. Give me a break. Was there a more obnoxious, more baiting, personally attacking post in this entire thread than this one? Not even close. Now if "They" are going to steal your vote is = to this how? Voter suppression is real. Voter registration is real. In my opinion, one is much more effective in f'ing our process than the other, but they are both wrong. ANd so when the conservative media shoves acorn down our throats - they are righteous and patriotic in their defense of the american electoral system. But when liberal media brings up how this anti-acorn movement has brought on lawsuits that are voter suppression, its race baiting. Its a joke. A million columnists in it for the dems, how about the million conservative columnists acting like the themes you are talking about are happening when its just not true, or not a national theme. Is the fact that people are legitimately still hypothesizing about the bradley effect, more Arlen Specter proposing it as reason that JSM could win PA not proof that race is a legitimate theme in this election. When people as in-tuned right now as NS need links, that means there was never a big story on it, a big example during this election of what you are talking about. I have no doubt you'll be able to find links, but with thousands of media outlets across the country, lets not act like this has been an overarching theme. Democrats have a good candidate they like in this election. Republicans don't. It's a role reversal of 04. So don't act like when democrats praise or defend their candidate they are sheep, and when you all criticize Obama while saying McCain sucks you are the crazy political independent that don't drink the kool-aid.

It is different. If there was a mailer saying hawkish, poor leadership would lead to slavery that was sent to the black population, that would be a similar example. And lol at acting like the title is any different than is being actually said by the mailer. Of course it's different, it always is.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 2, 2008 -> 03:26 AM) Remarkably similar to the people running around saying a McCain win would cause a racewar... don't you think? Damn, I will be glad when the election is over and you quit posting this low brow baiting crap. no

Surely it was time people educate the Jewish people about their history.

I'm watching notes on a scandal right now. Live blogging.

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Nov 1, 2008 -> 01:37 PM) So Obama's aunt. They made a big deal this week that she was living in public housing. Turns out she requested asylum when she moved to the US. It was denied in 2004, but she was never deported. Makes her technically illegal. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081101/ap_on_el_pr/obama_aunt this paragraph tells you everything you need to know: "Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release."

wiki. The reality is since october I think it has been more pro Obama than McCain, but I don't know how any reasonable person could possibly cover the McCain campaign in any positive way this month. It's been a disaster.

Criticism The organization has been criticized for advancing a notion of objectivity thought to be ideologically consistent with the values of liberal democracy. Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky argue that the CMPA is organized around the creation of "flak," which they define as "negative responses to a media statement or program" and which they maintain is part of a project of "disciplining the media." [17] The media watchdog group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) has challenged CMPA's non-partisan claim, based on the argument that much of its funding has come from conservative sources, and that its founder, Dr. S. Robert Lichter, once held a chair in mass communications at the American Enterprise Institute and was a Fox News contributor.[18][19] After a Washington Post article referred to CMPA as "conservative," the Post published a "Clarification," which concluded, "The Center describes itself as nonpartisan, and its studies have been cited by both conservative and liberal commentators."[20]

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 11:38 PM) This is one of those things that is just, well, odd. Hotline has a listing of election-related programming this weekend. CNN has this item included: That's basically just CNN handing over their network to conservatives to talk about the election for an hour. The problem of course is, there's no Election Countdown, View from the Left. CNN refused to air Obama's 30 min. ad

Thank ya kindly.

How do you print screen?

You can get a pretty good idea of how a state feels about a candidate. I know missouri is tight from living here, so I trust heads when he says Iowa loves Obama.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 07:54 PM) Also, I'll throw out a dark horse not mentioned... Lisa Madigan, IL AG and former state senate cohort of Obama's, for US AG. I'm looking forward to see her next move. I'd welcome her in the senate, but I'd like for her to become governor. I respect the job she's done. As for the republicans, considering their candidates have been either inadequate or scum, why not run Joe Birkett. A little green but the guy seems at least to be legitimately clean.