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I'm fairly certain the libertarian line is rather isolationist.

I think where the liberarians lose a lot of people are their views of the education system.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) The latest "Obama staffer" email making the rounds on the conservative blogs. Either this is made up BS, or the Obama campaign's internal numbers run counter to what every other pollster is seeing. The comments on skewing the polls don't make much sense to me, because as far as I know the pollsters that do weight for party are basing this on actual registration numbers, not Obama press releases. haha, This is clearly BS

QUOTE (shipps @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 06:25 PM) Iam going to the House of Blues tonight to see Jajuares a spanish rock band.I have no idea what they are saying but I like their sound so will see. any links?

Couldn't believe how long the line was. I was behind the hill on carnahan more towards jesse and behind "Missouri for Change" I only got to see Obama's head between the upper and middle prongs of the E. I have no idea what it looked like on the other side or where the stage even was. Crowd was really great though. The halloween costumes were funny.

I saw Obama tonite. Pretty interesting.

I don't know how you can disagree that McCain has had a terribly undisciplined campaign what with the constant campaign bickering getting leaked out as well as new theme every week.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 05:56 AM) Well it's also based loosely off Wahlberg's and Leo DiCaprio's careers. The real Drama is actually Wahlberg's cousin. And no matter what, doesn't matter if you turn 34 years old, don't you ever find people still giving you advice on life? It's not uncommon or out of this world to see Drama giving Vinny advice still. As far as E not becoming his manager, it's because they need to tie Ari and Vince together. Everyone's biggest complaints about the show beside Dom's first appearance was when Ari wasn't Vince's agent. Now with Ari sticking it out with Vinny, you people are getting mad? I mean think about it, Ari becomes studio head. Okay, what complications does he have as a studio head that would tie to Vince? Basically Ari really wouldn't have any major problems and nowhere the interaction with Vinny his agent would have. Ari not with Vince and the guys ruins the whole show's dynamic. I'm just saying why introduce that story line where Ari would have to choose? They could've just given it to dana gordon, but they had to have us believe that Ari would give up a 10 million dollar offer to be with his friends, and that's fine, whatever, but the way all the people around him were treating him like s*** for wanting to move up. You don't hold back your friends. It was just not believable, everyone was acting out of character.

But McCain doesn't set back WS games. I liked it. I thought it was going to be like Ross Perot's, too, where he just talked. He's got some good doc filmmakers that's for sure. kind of like Hitler.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 11:42 PM) Limit the window where they can run political ads and form 'exploratory committees' to raise money. I don't want to see another 2+ year campaign. Ever. I'm torn on this. I think that long primaries give you a very good idea about who a candidate was. I think that's why McCain has had such a hard time on Obama. People had mostly made up their mind about he he was after he beat hillary, and he couldn't rehash, he couldn't re-frame. Now why I say this is good is not because I'm an Obama fan. But if both candidates had an extended, hard-battled primary where the candidates had to define who they were to their party, then when they face off for the GE, it wouldn't be an election on personalities. It becomes about two distinct sets of ideologies. My father before this primary said he was dismayed that now with primaries it all comes down to IA and NH, and people don't really get to understand the candidates, and then it goes to a battle of vague ideologies b/w parties and the discourse goes down. In that sense, I think the Clinton/Obama fight was incredibly interesting from a historical perspective, and I hope next election cycle gets two strong candidates for the Republicans, b/c that whole crap about it fracturing the party was just that, crap.

If we go all time I s'pose it'd be different. My favorite senator is Feingold by far.

My favorite one on craigslist was an offer to watch the rally from their balcony. How scary is that? Hey, welcome to my nice home by grant park, don't murder me or steal anything plz!

I'm not a big fan of devito's character but I love the show.

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news...e.statesman.com unfortunately there are some disgusting comments below it.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 03:10 PM) Now some conservatives are attacking Obama for using the phrase "negative liberties." I think they think Obama means "bad liberties" but they just don't really know what negative means. It's a concept they must have missed in grade school civics. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/neg...nd_obama_n.html maybe the dumbest article I've ever seen.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 03:24 AM) So I was at the Illinois State building (69 W. Washington) where they have early voting in the basement, there were long lines. It was pretty interesting to see just how many people seem to be voting early, I think voter turnout may be really high this year. I feel like early voting was to avoid long lines.

As much as you think it would be possible for a semantics argument to be made about the tax increases being attributed to Bush, it wouldn't. Nobody would believe that the tax raises on every bracket two years could be attributed to Bush by the democrats. For one, you are giving them far too much credit, and for two these are WILD extrapolations. You have absolutely no evidence as to this claim that Obama will simply let all of the Bush tax cuts to expire and then blame it on Bush 2 years later, when nobody will care. He is claiming that no one under 250 Gs will see their taxes raised, if in 4 years they are, income tax wise, he would be screwed. You say he is just that arrogant that he wouldn't care, and that doesn't make any sense.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 03:22 AM) So why is he putting all those resources there, then? And frankly, who cares? It's because he can. No other reason, really. I could say who cares to everything you say, it doesn't prove any point. What's your argument that he's so arrogant he'll tax increase every bracket without fear of re-election? That he eats arugula?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 03:16 AM) Um, no, he has more money then God and wants to wipe the map so he can claim (add REVERB - VICTORRRRYYYYYY) EVERYWHERE! And a "TRUE MANDATE OF CHANGE"... unlike the doofus ass we have for a president now said 4 years ago. Right, but nebraska wouldn't turn red with him getting that district. He'd get 1 electoral vote. He wouldn't be able to claim victory there. So if he wants to win so badly that he has contingency plans to even get 1 electoral vote in NE, what does that say about how he'll play to get re-elected in your frame of Obama. Arrogance would be putting a ton of resources in Arizona and risking OH and FLA, not this.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 02:10 AM) A realist knows that Clinton would have never survived after 4 years. He learned something by HillaryCare getting hammered. Obama's more arrogant then that. So he started running trying to push all these liberal things, then gets defeated re election runs as centrist. Obama's more arrogant than that...right. So arrogant that he's going to win that he has staff in Omaha nebraska just to try and pry away that one electoral vote.

Clinton went left during elections then governed central? Right. That's the exact opposite of what he was accused of doing during his reign. This is all bunk. You are creating what you want to hear, that Obama is so pro taxes he's going to tax even more than tax itself! If the upper middle class sees an income tax increase when they were told they wouldn't, then his chances at a second term are over. And if you are accusing him to just be a politician who wants power, he wouldn't be dumb enough to seal his fate.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 02:09 AM) haha but he can still vote in the senate if he wins! can he submit his senate votes from jail, like an absentee ballot for imprisoned United States senators? I'd bet the reason he's staying because if he does win, he can step down and be replaced by Gov. Palin

FT, exactly. When that part happened with Eric telling him to walk away, is when me and my roommate looked at eachother and rolled our eyes. They are caricatures of themselves, I think the writers are turning them into shallow visions of what they think guys think cool guys are, they just party buy s***, f*** and talk s***. It's annoying. The banter is rarely funny anymore and they have weird forced laughs they didn't used to have to signify that yes, it was an attempt at a joke. But that said, on your ari prediction, that seems outside his character. But what does character development mean to this show anymore.

Obama's in columbia, MO on thurs. That's a big going out night for me. But hey, I guess.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 04:45 PM) The irony is that this article also takes the quote out of context, it leaves out the part where Obama then goes on to talk about how he believes the government should be the ones doing the redistribution of wealth. Yeah I just don't see it like that. I believe he was talking about government v. courts.