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PERSONALLY, I do think that having a split party Congress/WH is usually a good thing. HOWEVER, for the next few years, I want to see Health Care done, so the Repubs can go sit in a corner and cry about following their leader. But clearly the tensions between Clinton and Gingrich led to some fiscal responsibility that really moved us forward. Unfortunately of course, that fiscal house GOP method that took over in 94 turned into the evangelical conservatives of today.

Is this to do with Europes weekend response?

LOL, that whole video is priceless. "Few people know that community organizing is actually training to overthrow the government. I mean here he was, in NY making 50-60 thousand a year, and he comes to Chicago to make little? Hard to believe, I think New York he probably met Bill Ayers who convinced him to come to Chicago, and then Obama trained under Bill Ayers while there" hahahaha. What's funnier than this, is Hannity calls himself a journalist. My friend, I do not think that word means what you think it means.

thank you so much this was a treat!

Wick Allison now for Obama: http://www.dmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?nm...6A3EF81822D9F8E

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 12, 2008 -> 04:02 AM) It's never good when you get booed at a photo-op: Did McCain-Palin campaign not realize they were in Philly? Those people boo'd santa clause for goodness sakes.

any episode where there is a solo storyline for D sucks.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 11, 2008 -> 07:48 PM) OK, you guys are misreading what i said. One poster on here would have been creaming his jean with joy at the story, and would have it posted within seconds, much like he did with the troopergate post. Then the others would be on here trying to downplay the initial posting as not being a slam dunk (much like some of you did in the troopergate post http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...&p=1779258), but still say that it is bad and not good (again, much like some of you did in the troopergate post http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...&p=1779291). Second, as far as the meeting goes, you would think that ANY staffer going to a Muslim outreach meeting would at least inquire as to who the hell would be there before committing to go. Unless his Muslim outreach staffers are all brain dead f***ing idiots, which wouldn't speak too well for Obama's Hr skills then, would it. Yes, NSS, they both hang around with some scummy people, usually lobbists or people who take and/or receive bribes. CAIR and KKK are a bit fringy there, and neither one deserve to be heard by presidential candidates. Well, as long as you are admitting you are on the same level as AHB I guess we're good.

dude's a child molester, eh.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 11, 2008 -> 07:04 AM) You may disagree and be disgusted by this political malfeasance, but, it still won't change anyone's mind, come November 4th. The poor part of this logic is that you think the only purpose of these findings was to sway voters minds, or sway approval ratings. Oh, people don't care so it doesn't matter if she abused her office. That's pathetic.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Oct 12, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) Which is something we all should agree is not what we want from any elected official again. That was wrong then and would continue to be wrong in the future. But we get what we accept. I want to have him investigated, and McCain. In fact, that should be the minimum we do anytime someone runs for office. I wonder however, because of his lack of managerial experiences he just hasn't had the opportunity to do something like this. So in a sense Palin, because she has the most of any of the guys, is at a disadvantage when comparing records., Nobody is at greater disadvantage than senators.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Oct 11, 2008 -> 06:08 PM) http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i4OpiwX...lig0FgD93O3N3G0 I applaud McCain for his honesty. Too bad it doesn't work to get elected. I am starting to feel sorry for John. I'm happy that he is doing what he is doing, but I wish it hadn't come after people had to call him out on it. And, really, this is a result of the kind of campaign he's run.

I couldn't believe some of the stuff they did in this episode.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 11, 2008 -> 02:36 AM) The people who are against her, already think that she's incompetent. How will this change their view? The people who are for her, will side with her "soccer mom" family bias in this matter. How will this change their view? The borderline people will look at this and see her as a politician who did a political thing that a lot of politicians do. Is there a politician out there who hasn't used their office for some personal gain? i didn't see this but I disagree with this. the US Attorney firing and this are very big deals. I don't care how this pushes polls nationally, the fact that another person could be in the white house that did the following: Makes everyone follow their exact ideology (loyalty tests when she first became mayor) Fires people for personal reasons (troopergate, US Attorneys) croneyism sickens me to the core. After 8 years of this crap, of the complete politicization of departments that were. not. supposed. to. be. politicized. I can't imagine another woman getting away with this. The worst part, this s*** keeps happening, and all that happens are reports come out saying "Hey, people acted wrongly here" and NOTHING happens to them.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Oct 11, 2008 -> 04:28 AM) That's kind of funny because last night's episode was by far the worst in the show's history. Truth, it was also the first one all my roommates watched. It was terrible timing.

Friday afternoon news cycle.

The thing that I look at...GA went 16 for Bush in 2004, McCain's only up THREE!?!?!

have fun.

ugh, I think it just went from +300 to -170 in like half an hour.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2008 -> 08:23 PM) I'm going to excerpt virtually this whole TPM post because it's so, um, correct. thank you, I already knew this and read this, but the straw grasping was getting old. and fwiw, the Wall St. Journal also talked about how this was more employee fraud than election fraud.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2008 -> 07:45 PM) So if this is the case, when we start to rally, we will rally hard, because there will be multiple covers instead of just one per short. Interesting. SS...as I'm trying to wrap my head around this...when people start investing in the funds or stocks in the funds, would that mean the stocks have more money behind them with more covers...And if what I just said is a simple yes or no I'll be shocked.

God, I was so shocked when I heard Russia lost 50% of their value in the market. Then we are at what, a 35% drop now? Jesus.

gulp.

thank you. I just got a new this american life on the economy I plan on throwin on the ipod and listening to today. Thanks NS and SS, I have a lot to learn but, god if there is any good for me is that this all has made the stock market incredibly pertinent and interesting to learn about.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 10, 2008 -> 06:48 PM) I don't necessarily agree with 2/3 of the things you've said...but if hypothetically I did, there's still one big problem you're missing...you can't exactly do a good job of explaining how you're going to be more fiscally responsible and do a better job with the economy than the Democrats and at the same time tell me how good of a job George W. Bush has done, simply because of the record. Either you have to attack the President's earmark record on something other than the stupid earmarks (anyone who can do the slightest bit of math simply scoffs at that) or you cede the economic ground to Obama. They don't have a charismatic fiscal conservative in their bunch right now, the only bright ones they have are social conservatives. All they could've brought out was Fred Thompson and Fred Thompson had absolutely no idea what he was getting into clearly.