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I'm only reading surveyUSA at this point.

i refuse to sign up for those text messages until they guarantee me they won't sell my number to ad agencies.

anderson in center, cabrera in ss and uribe at 2b is really strong up the middle.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) Every time Obama mentions McCain's name he speaks of him with great respect, he says "genuine American hero" almost every time he brings his name up, but he sharply disagrees with him on the issues and happily criticizes them. His tone is more like "bring it" than scorn, although he does crack a few jokes here and then. McCain seems to be running a pretty clean campaign and I expect it'll stay that way on his end. Any nastiness or below-the-belt nonsense I'd expect to come from the rank-and-file conservatives, but not McCain's people. At least if there is, there'll be accountability. Although, I found this funny. The youtube ad that had Obama with wright, in arab garb and all that garbage that came out last week, McCain quickly denounced it. So what's the story? McCain, continuing to be above the political fray, condemns his own followers for not playing it safe. And what's the consequence? Well, the major tv outlets all play that ad over and over again, the one he condemns. So, he gets doubly good, one, he appears to be the good guy, and two, a commercial making Obama an angry arab black man gets shown ad nauseum. Damn the Republicans are good.

I just wanted to say how happy I was in the seventh, going against rafael perez? who is sick against us, and he was giving us tough pitches away and paulie and Dye went the oppo. field with them. It made my heard pump faster than normal.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 11:23 PM) You can't choose your grandfather, unless you are from Kentucky or Alabama and do alot of inbreeding, but you can choose your pastor. Big difference. I understand your point, but still a big difference. I can choose to hold him close to this day and continue to learn from him. I'm a young man, alpha dog, I see your point, but I can only relate things to my limited experiences. My mentors at this point are pretty much all related to me. Just sharing why this did not affect me the way it affected others. I completely understand someone who has worked, fought, loved, been devoted to this country being appalled at someone saying "God Damn America", such language we've seen from a radical cleric in the Middle East this decade, but not from home, let alone a close friend to a presidential candidate. But I don't see it defining the man or his what his actions would be as president. Not in my eyes.

I read it. I dislike the very colloquial "take it from the f***ing man" tone of Rolling stone authors. I was hoping of more of a long term, thorough book. Because, I'd like to know even more. The story where that one contracting firm took the army's own trucks, painted them a different color, then sold them back to them was disgusting.

QUOTE(lostfan @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 11:03 PM) On the old Fans GB81 actually posted a pretty long one last summer. from Rolling stone.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) Well considering thats where this conversation is taking place I would say its a little more reasonable to try and follow it here than for me to worry about what Facebook groups think about. Thanks again for important insight and continuing effort in keeping the discussion on track. Im glad now I know what Im up against so from now on if I want your opinion I will flip on MTV or Oprah A forum is a forum is a forum. People are discussing this issue are relevant to debates on how people have discussed this issue, how the media has covered people discussing this issue. And with the way this thread has turned, a facebook group might even be more civil. Yas on his high horse saying he was called a racist when NSSox merely said that he was looking for a reason to hate Obama no matter what because of his politics. Yas was also looking for us to call him a racist, in my opinion, as you say, so he could categorize us with the image in his head of the crazy liberals who love everyone who hates america and label everyone racists for saying anything. In my opinion. But no one has called anyone a racist for thinking Wright is a racist. Then CC comes and says "watermelon soaked nose". Now tell me, which side on this issue has become more hard-headed. I'll give my complete thought now on why I don't care about Obama going to the Church that had Rev. Wright. I know my Grandfather for teaching me so many things about life. Hard work, love, humility, gratitude. I've also known him to say some things that disgust me, all dealing with political or social issues. Words of hate. Do I think my grandfather is a hate-filled man, no, and he's important to me, and he's taught me so much. But just because he's said those words, does not mean that I believe them. How many times has a political sermon in the church affected the way you live? feel? The ones I've been to are so lightning in a bottle, they don't live on, they are too current event and usually much like a pundit on TV. But the ones on faith and how to live, those can help define and form a person. So I don't give a damn about Bush close with Robertson, Graham close with the many presidents, Hagee with McCain or Wright with Obama. (To reclarify, I don't care about Hagee with McCain, I don't believe McCain is an anti-semite b/c he's with McCain, but I did get frustrated when McCain got a free pass for Hagee when Obama was getting hit with Wright). When these men (and whoever Hillary's involved in) would hypothetically go to these men for advice, I have no doubt in my mind they are looking for spiritual or personal advice, not political. Pt. II to come later.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:04 PM) This story makes me angry. How does this happen??? NY Times has had a pretty awful couple of years but props on getting this story. I wish someone would write a huge collective story on the contract mess that, for me, has defined Iraq.

it's not racist but I was laughing hysterically when I saw it. Lou Dobbs is such a joke, he's found his niche and is exploiting it for all it's worth. Disgusting TV "journalism".

nvm.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 31, 2008 -> 08:11 PM) I wasnt aware that we were discussing comments from such highly regarded sources as Facebook groups. as opposed to a political section of a white sox baseball forum.

woo, plz buffalo wild wings have this game.

interesting.

i also think this Obama not taking on the issues, or being vague, is somewhat due to lazy journalism. Their job is to cut through jargon and wind and use their experience and research to clarify concisely what they are saying. With clinton she has her soundbites "90 day foreclosure freeze", whereas I believe Obama's speeches don't have those, he gives context and issues faced never really giving that bite, not that he has no stance on it. I find obama's #1 liberal ranking kind of funny considering how much more Clinton's policies are in need of government. The government would completely take on the mortgage crisis and force the will. NYT's article summarizing the speech gave very shallow coverage, the only thing they caught was middle class tax cuts, a catchphrase pretty much. I'm a big fan of Obama's net neutrality stance, not said in this speech, as well. And I think Obama's views are more realistic to push progressive goals through. Dem's have a slim majority now, and still can't do anything, I don't know what seats will change in november, but I have a hard time believing Clinton's policies would get through, so is she going to exec. order all of this?

You think Buffalo Wild Wings would have this on? Man I'm Pisssssed.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 11:49 PM) Well Im sorry but I dont analyze what Obama says the same way you do but that doesnt make my opinion wrong just as yours isnt to you. My point is however that IMO Obama simply lists problems when he speaks but he doesnt shed any light on what he is going to do to stop them. Im not some radical conservative that only watches Fox News and regurgitates what they say. Im an independent and Ive been very critical of all three of the candidates and I use many sources to gather my opinions so I am aware of what stances the candidates have on certain issues and in this thread I have addressed the ones that I am weary of from Obama because more or less he is the only candidate being discussed in this thread. As cliche as it is, I agree with what a lot of pundits have been saying in terms of questioning Obamas substance because I honestly dont feel he has laid out any ground work to accomplishing any of the issues that are feasible. So if you feel like Im not justified for showing my concern about what kind of person Obama is based on anything from his lack of experience, his relationships with people who promote hate and intolerance or even on things like his relationship with Rezco thats fine. But I will reiterate, with the state this country is in right now I dont see anything wrong with exploring every nook and cranny of a candidates character before deciding whether or not they qualified to be my elected leader. If you or anyone else wants to sit back and hope for the best based on speeches a politician recites thats fine, but I dont see the point in criticizing someone who wants to gather as much information they can on every candidate besides what they say in preprepared speeches. Now if I was blindly defending McCain or Hillary thats one thing, but Im not. Im very critical of all of them because of the magnitude of the position they are all lobbying for. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/us/polit...amp;oref=slogin Here you go, bro. I wasn't saying your concern wasn't valid, I was saying just because it isn't covered doesn't mean he's not saying it. It's more of a condemnation of the media, who has fed into the tit for tat quips and slights as opposed to the 'issues'. If you want me to get Dodd's legislation I'll look for that as well.

amazing that on a weekend that Obama went on vacation, Clinton could do so much damage to herself.

QUOTE(michelangelosmonkey @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) Yeah...and the SAME YEAR 24 year old catcher, Earl Battey, who went on to have three top ten finishes in the MVP balleting for a couple of OK years from the aging Roy Sievers. People forget how Bill Veeck destroyed a team that was set up for a long playoff run. Actually some interesting parallels between that 1959 team and the 2000 Sox team that won 99 games. One can make a cogent argument that if those teams had just had the patience to stand pat with their talent they would have more than one WS in the last 75 years. Still trades are sexy and most of us fans love it...and love the idea of GM's "going for it" when one gets close. my uncle jim didn't forget.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 10:39 PM) Interesting to get such an open minded Patriotic response. Its odd I thought my last few posts were discussing Obamas policies and questioning his stances on certain issues and asking his route to achieve his goals but it turns out Im just being racist. Well Im sorry if you dont agree with my views but I will continue to reiterate that your opinion, and thats all it is, isnt any more valid than mine because you like said candidate and you will defend him just as blindly as you say we criticize him. Simply adding in your last post that there are reasons to dislike him besides Wright doesnt justify being open minded. The Wright argument is used in conjunction with other issues that are being applied to question Obamas character and qualifications to lead this country. The topic is far from the only point anyone has made in terms of questioning Obama. However, this is a thread about Wright and I would think that might be why people are discussing it. So if it makes you feel better to call anyone who questions Obama closed minded than you can go ahead and keep spewing it but is it really open minded to blindly defend his every move? Can you not see peoples resentment for the things Wright has said, which is the topic of the thread? When topics like this are discussed there are always going to be people that are at other ends of the spectrum but when one side *cough* Obama supporters *cough* call people closed minded simply because they have a different opinion then them is extremely hypocritical. Now if anything has been proven overwhelmingly for one side or another thats one thing, which it hasnt, but when people with different opinions continue to try to explain where theyre coming from and trying to justify themselves and one side simply dismisses anything said by the other and in turn calls them closed minded its laughable. Now I will continue to use phrases like, in my opinion, the reason I think and what I dont like about this you can continue to use things like Im right and youre wrong. well, when Obama supporters start threads about McCain being a gay drug abuser that is love with the John Birch society and is , say, an atheist, you can talk about how close minded we are.

QUOTE(DrunkBomber @ Mar 30, 2008 -> 08:33 PM) This isnt a thread on Britney Spears or anything. I think its a very valid point to wonder how he is going to accomplish all these goals. Maybe all you look for in a President is someone that can read preprepared speeches without any substance but when it comes to becoming the leader of the most powerful country in the free world I think we deserve a little insight instead of taking a politicians word for it. So Im sorry if the argument "gets old" but some people might actually want to know what route the country is going to go in the future even though you obviously dont. As far as the McCain argument, youre barking up the wrong tree, I really dont like him either. it'd be a valid point if he didn't have a week two weeks ago, where he had a huge speech on foreign policy and a huge speech on the economy. It'd be a valid point if he didn't have a Web site outlining his policies for the country. But he has consistently outlined his plans for the country.. Unfortunately actual policy talk gets lost in the sexy issue of whether a man who has devoted his adult life to public service cares about the country.

I feel like the only year we didn't play the indians this decade was 02? Was that when we opened in Seattle and they went on like a 10-0 start before we swept them in a 3 game series?

yes, the Obama never says how argument...never gets old. damn him for being better at prepared speeches than thinking on the fly. Not like McCain with his "EVERYBODY KNOWS" to every question asked to him, or Iran er Al Qaida er Iran er Al Qaida.

ALE: Boston Red Sox ALC: Cleveland Indians ALW: LA Angels ALWC: CHW NLE: Mets NLC: Cubs NLW: Diamondbacks NLWC: LA Dodgers CLE over Mets in WS I have a hard time ever leaving my team out in preseason predictions