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we've also redone the entire scouting dept. from what 29&poplar has told us, including spending much more money on LA scouting.

yeah but, he's not ready/may not be good.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) Let me preface this by saying I dont want Owens in the lineup. The bantam weight speed guy is one of the annoyances of this team. But you build a team around balance. Building a team that has power in the middle of the lineup, followed up by a lot of guys who can hit doubles would play very well at this park. Having a large amount of high power, high strikeout guys make for some really nice 11 run games followed up by a 0 run, 2 hit, 12 strikeout corpseball effort where everyone is trying to hit the majestic home run when we need a single late in the game to drive in the guy from second. The wind from the bats missing the ball, and the players making the ooh I just missed it face when they fall to one knee after striking out on a low and away pitch makes me shudder. Dont worry, with Walk and the park Swish will hit himself some home runs. see, i agree if your power hitters are like crede that get you 25 dingers but are getting on at a .315 clip, but when they are getting on base + hitting power like we think quentin will do and know swish will do, it's a lot different type of player than the uribe and crede power hitters we had. Fields is that type of hitter, but i can tolerate it hitting 7th, you know.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) Agreed. Santana may not have lived up to his potential, but I like him over Floyd in a second. so you are going to trade paul konerko for a pitcher that is slightly better than floyd? Come on.

wouldn't we all, bearsox? But we don't, and when we make a move like this to greatly improve a position on this team for the next 5 years, how is that different than having a all star potential OF waiting in the wings? I think in the next few years our new scouting dept. will have this team suited well to have impact players coming in about 2011. So i'm not worried about moving these spects for a legitimate hitter. The point of having a farm system is so you can nab guys like this. Now we have a legitimate OF for the first time since ... maybe 04 i guess. Now we have the #8 pick in the draft and a new scouting dept. what's the point of keeping guys that weren't that highly thought of anyways for a really good hitter?

honestly when you are playing in US cellular field why the hell wouldn't you build a power team?

and swisher gets on an incredible obp too, so who cares if he strikes out, like the difference between striking out and weakly grounding to 1b like erstad is much worse. He's got a good eye, k's are bad when they have bad batting eye's and are swinging outta the k zone. His k's are not a concern.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:47 PM) so, what's our lineup? 1. Cabrera, SS 2. Swisher, CF 3. Thome, DH 4. Konerko, 1B 5. Dye, RF 6. Fields, 3B 7. Pierzynski, C 8. Quentin, LF 9. Richar/Ramirez, 2B looks like we will live or die by the home run, once again. yeah man, i wish we had owens back in the lineup for some nice singles.

1. pete rose jr.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:43 PM) Because our SP is horrendous. so we get e. santana?

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:42 PM) With Swisher we maybe beat out the Royals and Twins for 3rd place... but our rotation and bullpen suck, and our offense is just filled with power hitters who K a lot (but we did add a little extra OBP!!!!!!!) If we actually had a chance at competing, I would like this trade, as I think Swisher is a good player... but we just f***ed our selves up big time for the future as we have no farm system and don't have any future replacement for Konerko or Thome. miggy cabrera k'd 127 times last year...HE SUCKS

why would we want santana again?

12-2 atm.

yeah. They are f'd. what about that mizzou pitcher at 8. Mizzou grads never disappoint.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:17 PM) I like Swisher and all, but I don't see how this move makes us contenders for next season. Our rotation still blows, and our bullpen has added overrated s*** face Linebrink. big whoop. We get another power hitter who at least knows how to take a walk, but we completely destroyed our farm system. If we don't make the playoffs next year, Kenny Williams must be fired, because he f***ed this team up big time for the long term. our farm system was already destroyed, these guys weren't all going to miraculously become top of the line players, they can easily be replaced, maybe not DLS, but hell, he was exploded onto the scene this year, and we can replace people with a high draft pick.

well to be fair, i think most people thought we got a fair return on garland, just not the right one, i think most of us would've preferred that buchholz, taveraz, hirsch package the year before. but as of right now, i love it. in the offseason our OF went from the worst in the bigs to having JD and two high obp guys with 25-35 hr capability. AND our 3b is much better shape than 1/2 of last year, when...andy *shutter* gonzalez and pablo PABLO OZUNA were there. UGH. 2b with richar is scary but hopefully he can be what you'd expect out of a #8 or #9 hitter, and our SS is >>>>> than last year. Now, we need our young pitching to improve, so, roll the dice, our pitching will either perform or not. But, at least our team will be much more fun to watch this year.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:10 PM) great, another guy who K's 100+ times a season. oh my god, who cares.

But if floyd/danks fail, i don't think that it would've been Gio and DLS that we would've gone to this year anyway.

look at that jerry owens power surge!!!! 5 HR!!!

but i mean, a lot of teams have been putting power at leadoff. Soriano, young, granderson...if he's gonna get on base at a .380 clip who cares if 30 times that he got on base he took himself straight home?

he has a pretty arrogant coaching staff, i wonder how much planning they actually do in that month off.

they said that the guy coaching this game right now was headed to mich after the game was over.

and michigan fans, i think you can take even more excitement knowing that RR had such a good staff that they can pull this off.

just another example of how strange this season has been...how the hell could WVU lose to Pitt that last game? That sucks, WV is fast as hell at like every offensive skill position but i had no idea how strong they were in the trenches. and, bradford looking like a frosh and stoops game calling like it's a bowl game, OU has been very disappointing in bowls for several years now, somethin gives.

so...bulls under new coach are looking good. Now our bench is an asset again with gordon off of it.