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It's weird that you respond to this as if Kyyle was arguing that players in fact like Boylen instead of that your specific example is probably wrong.

This is a pathetic attempt at trolling. I'm glad KW/Hahn got the ship in order, but no team should go 12 years+ in between playoff appearances. They did not get fired and they improved their operation (thank god!), but there are a lot of worthy people in this world who could step into the white sox baseball GM job after 2012 and not taken 8 years to get us to the point we have a competitive team. I'm glad Hahn learned from the mistakes of the previous 16 years he had been in the org by the time he shifted gears in 2017. But yeah, people change! But this job is a tremendous, rare commodity and it's fair to expect results. We can't all be Jim Boylen.

There sure are a lot of backhalf projected first round catchers. I doubt it drafts that way.

But it's all relative to year. I think Shirley will be more prep focused, but that doesn't have to mean he goes all prep for 10 rounds. It's not hard to be more prep-focused than Hostetler.

That is a bizarre decision unless what this really means is "sox are enamored with this prep player and are going to make sure they get him"

I don't think it's that he is saying "he's david eckstein and david eckstein isn't that valuable" as much as "the only recent player who has succeeded with that profile is david eckstein" which makes madrigal actually more risky than many would admit. Madrigal really needs to keep his walk rate where it is though. He really needs that .350 obp

I don't know that sox should try to have a profile player at 11. I like as a fan using the profile approach for top 5-6 picks because when you are that high you can get the kind of athletes with some baseball skills that are rare to find behind it. But at 11 you don't know how draft will shake out. With this draft the way it is, we just have to wait to see what's left of the college pitching crop after injuries and helium. Maybe a college hitter makes sense in that the elite college pitching crop pushes a normally top 5-6 hitter downward. Maybe the teams in the top ten don't want to go college pitcher due to state of rebuild and a guy we don't think is available falls. We need more athleticism and there are some 2nd round prep infielders that sound great. Not sure we need to address that with our top pick.

Right. I think the obsession with getting a good deal is blinding people to the benefit of just guaranteeing you have him on your team beyond FA.

Valuing his opinion? Is that what’s happening?

Also while discounts are great, There is no cliff for this team which is excellent. They don’t have to worry about time bomb years as they move to get the final pieces.

There have been plenty of experts who have written him, a highly visible college and minor league career, and law's previous writings. Madrigal is about to be up and be the real validation on whether his style of play can translate, Law giving a thumbs up or thumbs down doesn't change much of any known variables at this point. But by all means, scream into the void.

dang I forgot to record this. Thanks for the tip it re-airs!

Do people want these lists to just confirm what they believe or tell them something new? Is Law a crank when he stays with Giolito despite performance or when he leaves off Madrigal (despite never being much of a fan)? These lists are more fun to let you know about players you can't get many looks at...that's not madrigal. We know a lot about him and what he needs to succeed. We don't really need a writer to tell us more.

Is this people's first spring training?

Yeah so I'm going to go ahead and stay out of this thread. 6. Robert 16. Kopech 28. Vaughn fin https://theathletic.com/1627163/2020/02/24/keith-laws-top-100-prospects-for-2020/ (despite the discourse that will becoming, it was an interesting list. And he has certainly put his chips in with Corbin Carroll still.)

Parody.

I guess I’ll just say that this isn’t particularly that interesting. If sox like him and think he could be closer, it has benefit of savings in years other salaries rise. If he falls, we are safely in the area where over paying isn’t much of an issue. id blame the bizarre arbitration affinity for relievers for causing this. It’s not going to be hugely impactful, no where near in scale to recent extensions.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/arbitration/relief-pitcher/ depends on health and what solid means. And who knows how arb progresses for next five years, this hedges against that.

$10-12 mill will not be ashtray money.

I mean. Gavin sheets too, there’s probably like a dozen more guys connected as kids to major leaguers I’ve never heard of

Yeah sounds like it. Probs under 75k

When we talk about locking up position players, the savings are usually happening in the club option/extension years. But with bummer it’s happening in his arb 2/3 years, that flexibility is nice.

This is very likely false

So this is 2019 then. Must be cheap