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Yes, but there are questions about everyone. What if Vaughn has to move to DH? Is a DH worth the #3 pick? For your last part, no, I don't think this board appreciates how hard it is to find a SS. One of the things about short stops is you can play anywhere. That makes you a very valuable prospect, because no matter what our team looks like in 2022/23/24 etc, you can provide defensive value where needed.

Yes, he played CF on Team USA to make way for Witt.

There have been a number of teams heavily criticized for "getting cute" in the draft that ended up getting the correct player. We should stop assuming we know the exact value of these players.

Not if he's capable of playing SS.

I think Anderson is probably safely a 20 hr guy, and Abrams is likely to be a 15 hr guy, but apparently that's an issue because Madrigal - which sounds like a Madrigal problem. You also don't have to play Abrams at SS, you can play him wherever you need him. You could play him at 2b and have madrigal flex everywhere. It would be like a deep team that's good operates.

That sounds like an Anderson/Madrigal issue, too. You should go look at a bunch of high school major leaguer scouting reports and how often "needs to add pounds to grow into power" are written about them. Francisco Lindor had a future 40 tagged to his power.

There's no guarantee in college players being there before high school players! As I've pointed out many times, the sox drafted 3 college players in 2016, and 28th overall pick Carter Kieboom beat them all to the majors. A reliever (fast mover!), a top bat (super polished), and a former top 10 projection. I like abrams a lot and would still take vaughn because of Keith Law being so high on him. But that doesn't mean Abrams is an idiotic choice. The defensive concerns read a lot like a reps issue and his hit tool means he can tap into at least decent power with approach changes. I'm just tired of the the constant bashing of jared mitchell as a example of why you shouldn't draft speed/athleticism or hawkins for not drafting prep, meanwhile copy/pasting college players into future lineups immediately as if we haven't had larger number of college busts.

It's top line speed paired with good contact ability and the possibility of growing into power. His inability to stick at SS drops him all the way to the value suck of...center field.

He does not have a power swing. He also was tagged with 60 raw power from fangraphs.

This doesn't answer why selecting abrams would be "stupid".

Law also mentioned Brooks Lee is basically unsignable.

I don't understand the hyperbolic hate around Abrams.

Nick 3:29 You seem to be the most optimistic on Corbin Carroll's power outlook. How many homers do you see him hitting annually? Keith Law 3:30 He's a 20+ guy for me. Maybe more. Alex Bregman has 48 homers since the start of 2018; I think Carroll has comparable hand strength. Helpful in understanding why he's so high on carroll. In contrast, mlb pipeline has him with a 45 future grade for power, equal to that of abrams.

I'd obviously want Rutschman but would be so pumped to get Witt anyway in that scenario.

He's saying take advantage of picking ahead of everyone, the guys you are trying to manipulate to get in the 2nd round would be there if you weren't a terrible team. I agree but I also really like Abrams and if you get him with a big discount and can get Leiter or Blake Walston or Goss that's exciting.

mlb pipeline is 60/60 too.

I always get confused with who to pay attention to in this team. But it appears that most of the players we discussed as liking last year must be in AZ. This uses BAs 2018 review to show who is a spect in this group. Not on team: Harold Diaz (19 y.o., Cuba) - batted well last year and appears to be in AZ Bryan Ramos (17 y.o., Cuba) - No idea, not on roster. Must be in AZL On Team: Enoy Jimenez (SS) nuff said. Anthony Espinoza (17 y.o., VZ): Shortstop Anthony Espinoza was another July 2 signing for the White Sox last year out of Venezuela. He's 5-foot-10, 165 pounds and isn't a burner, but he is a quick-twitch athlete with average speed and arm strength, moving around well at shortstop with a good glove and high all-around baseball instincts. Alberto Bernal (16 y.o., Cuba) 1b: He didn't play much, but he did hit .370/.528/.593 in 36 trips to the plate. Bernal has some catching experience, but the White Sox signed him as a first baseman. He's 6-foot-1, 215 pounds and drew the White Sox attention for his combination of hitting ability and righthanded power, which he showed after signing with a couple of home runs in games during Dominican instructional league. Luis Pineda (17 y.o., VZ) C He has a strong, compact frame (6-foot-1, 210 pounds) with impressive power for a 16-year-old catcher. He can dip his back shoulder and get too uphill trying to get into that power, but his hands stay short to the ball and he has the strength to drive pitches with impact when he centers the baseball. Pineda will have to stay on top of his conditioning and agility behind the plate, but he has an above-average arm. Ronaldo Guzman (16 y.o., DR) LHP He turned 16 on Aug. 23, so he's one of the younger players in the class. He's grown to 6-foot-1, throwing a fastball up to 89 mph with easy arm action and an athletic delivery that he repeats well to throw strikes with an advanced changeup for his age. Jenderrson Caraballo was a 2016 signee who performed well the first year, and clearly was injured last year. He still hasn't pitched. 16 Y.Os: Alberton Benal 1b Wilber Sanchez SS Jose Jimenez P Guzman p Luis Pineda C 17 Y.Os Oriel Castro Dionicio Jimenez Benyamin Bailey OF Roberth Gutierrez OF C Mendoza C Benavides SS Espinoza 3b Edwin Peralta If anyone can fill int he gaps.

From BA: Langeliers in the teens always seemed like good value, seems like he's back on track. Abrams could come really cheap, and at this point it seems unlikely he is sox pick. I feel pretty confident we are going vaughn barring a shakeup in top2.

white sox selections based purely on FG value boards: 3rd overall - JJ Bleday 45th overall - Korey Lee (C - Cal) 81st overall - Jack Kenley (2b - Ark) BA 3rd - Vaughn 45th - Ethan Small (LHP - MSU) 81st - Nick Quintana - (3b - AZ)

Charlie is nice but he has a .270 ba with a .370 BABIP, he has a terribly small iso, and if or when his batting average drops he will not be particularly good. Jon Jay if he looks good would be nice depth and allow leury to play around a bit more.

https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/1135605184040755200 Jokes aside, he's a good clubhouse guy and I hope he produces while our young players learn.

The orioles hired Mike Elias and Sig Mejdal from the Astros who were some of the top architects of their rebuild so if they pass on Adley it is either ownership medical stuff like we've seen in past or they value adley equally to another prospect that is cheaper, but I wouldn't call them a very bad organization right now. This is a whole new group that had a lot of previous success.

an unbelievable read on the astros: https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/6/3/18644512/mvp-machine-how-houston-astros-became-great-scouting

That's a pretty interesting write-up.

@Quin how are you going to handle Misner going to the Cubs?