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That he had a high likelihood of still finding time in the majors based off his bat and approach is what high floor means.

They drafted zack burdi in 2016. They have overwhelmingly drafted out of college the last 5 years.

Collins had a mature plate approach that made him safe because people said he had an mlb bat that could play as a first baseman. Do me a favor, take the 34 players drafted in the 2016 mlb draft first and comp rounds and rank them from highest floor to lowest floor then tell me that the white sox drafted a high ceiling, low floor player.

They can sign 10 guys for "250" now, it's not the pool that we were hoping to get after two years on the sidelines.

I am talking about their organic collection of talent in the draft and international free agency over twenty years. It's great we acquired some high ceiling talent (they HAD to), but we had to give up established mlb stars to do so, because they failed to create that themselves at a level remotely keeping up with the other mlb teams in the league.

This is a big part of the story, absolutely (I would say even more so with Broadway, passing on Poreda), and you can see the shift get better starting with the CBA change. But it goes to the idea with them of if you are going to be limited, you have to get some production. Tons of mature players that could get you some backend depth with the core that was in majors. I think there was zero chance they could ask jerry to pay a tax to just sign twenty 16 year olds, but to go over for an 18 year old from cuba that has played professionally and shown stateside? Much easier to do.

I would have loved the sox to have signed 7-8 "tatis's", i.e. 700k+ guys this draft. That we have a 2.5 million hole makes me that instead of loading up on some top 30 guys after two years off, we are going all in on a mature, limited guy just because it's more likely production.

The white sox overarching philosophy has been college over high school, which is very much about higher floor certainty. In the KW and then hahn era, they have veered very safe players save for three drafts: Tim Anderson, Courtney Hawkins and Kris Honel. I think you could argue sale, but at the least people knew he would be a immediate bullpen contributor. Keenyn Walker/Jared Mitchell are examples of high floor to me. College athletes with plus run and fielding that if they can just learn to hit a little get you a backup outfielder. Kyle Mccullugh, Lance Broadway. Royce Ring. Rodon, Fulmer, Burdi. All pitchers that were expected to move up quickly and at least have big league futures in bullpen (more for Rodon). Hugely limited ceilings for mccullough and Broadway. Beckham, Burger, Madrigal, Collins, Fields, college producing bats with mature approaches and limited bodies. I'm glad they have moncada, but he was already near the bigs. That they had to trade elite, cost controlled major league talent to finally get the types of players that Moncada, Cease, Kopech are should have been a huge sign of the types of risks they should be taking in the draft. They have not taken them still. Burdi is the classic example. Finally they had 3 top 50 picks where they could bundle up some money for a high schooler in comp round 1, they pay slot for a college reliever missing on players like Trammel and Kieboom.

In what world is this true?

Especially when the baltimore orioles have 6 million available to spend in this period, where he is free to spend, where the sox can only offer 300k.

Exactly, even setting aside star power which can be somewhat random unless you blow your whole pool correctly, our latam pipeline should be able to churn out more yolmers and some freaking pitchers for once. Who was the last one there, Faustino DLS?

I do not expect this lineup to be very vet heavy.

Seems like you could answer this by reading the arguments.

Getz in the article says they think sosa can tap into more power but can see a utility role future for him. He has done such a good job holding his own compared to our other latam prospects, I just really hope he's a guy that beats expectations along the way.

Per Fegan's latest interview with Getz https://theathletic.com/886596/2019/03/26/which-white-sox-prospects-will-level-up-to-start-the-season/?redirected=1 Very happy and excited for this. This indicates to me they have shown well in backfields and I like sox starting to be a bit more aggressive in promotions. I do wonder what this means for Curbelo. But Bush/Sosa/Nunez/Zangari is quite interesting for an infield.

If your definition of being a small market is whether or not they throw around big money, san diego is now no longer small market team.

Arod signed with the texas rangers.

Yeah, ST can obviously be a slog, but these are some of the only times most of us can see players like Robert for a while.

Exactly this. Look it's hard with international, we rely almost exclusively on two reporters to provide info and scouting on these guys. But to date the sox best performing latam guys have all been high priced signings. Adolfo was ranked top 3 when he signed. Robert was one when he was available (and sox at the time could blow through their allotment for him). Now they certainly have had more productive classes from 2015/16, and those relied a lot on signings (when you exclude robert) in that 25-50 range. Obviously one blew up. We just aren't hearing about those at all, and I was hoping we'd be able to make relationships with 2-3 top 30 guys during this 2 year hiatus. That requires some guesswork, as we'd be talking about 14 year olds, but that is what the top clubs have done. So it goes down to whether you trust paddy. The competition for talent in latam is higher now than the mid parts of the decade where sometimes 1/3 of teams would be out. Sox have a horrible track record, so I hoped this would be the year they could focus all resources and come out with some recognized talent. We just have to hope we get lucky, as is the case with so much of the franchise.

Hmm. I don't know. I love waiver wire pickups. He has been getting better and better in minors, but it's also PCL. He ks, but seems more in the 20% range than the 40% range of most of our hitters. He is very fast, statcast has him in the top 1% for sprint speed. His defense beyond that I can't say. I don't know, I wouldn't hate it. Would be nice to have more speed in the outfield. But like, the diamondbacks lost a lot of players, so letting him go on waivers isn't exactly inspiring.

Here is what Law said: "Hunter is a solid athlete but not as talented a runner or fielder as Braden is, and likely ends up in left field between his middling speed and 40-grade arm"

At my most charitable reading, at least that could indicate Sox were talking with him earlier and trying to behind the scenes to push him to 2019 instead of 2018. Basically that he was part of the “2019 plan”.

When he first was named eligible Longenhagen said his agent said he had a 2 million offer in the next class already, do you think that was the Sox?

The actual application of the theory would be signing/acquiring $45 million of over 30 players over paying the younger higher upside/greater financial risk player, not signing a player they already have to an extension.

They take college players over high schoolers They only pay up for over 18 year old international talent that played in professional leagues They targeted AAA older “blocked” prospects during a rebuild over younger, raw talent