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basically my sentiments in 2 paragraphs instead of 20.

Right, I think the variation in the names thrown out as being involved and how unrealistic that is has made this an impossible conversation. I like Joc Pederson, and am not ready to punt on 2020 the way many are. However, the idea that he can be had for Bummer and Bush seems incredible considering better positioned teams with equal farms such as braves also exist. But, that is the info that was presented to date. Apparently, there is no salary offsetting any talent sent LAs way. I would love to upgrade over Engel, but not at the price of hurting our future goal of consistent contention. Unfortunately at this point, it feels like the talent we amassed in trades of 2016-17 is what it is, it is not being re enforced well in draft and there has been no fast risers from the latam classes of 2015-16, and no class to speak of for 2017-18. None of the minor trades to date have resulted in an immediate turnaround for a prospect. So trading for the depth at this point is a scary proposition as it feels removing the margin for error. When you just absolutely need specifically Luis Robert and Jimenez and Dunning and Kopech and Cease to hit. Is that likely? History says no considering the major league record of our recent good prospects at least shows significant major league work required. And for that reason bush feels like one of the pieces that could catapault into a future core piece. Is it likely? No. Now there are pieces I'd trade for young productive players even if it isn't cost controlled for 4 years or more. Rutherford is one, Hansen is another. Burdi is another. And pederson is a guy that would be really nice in a mix of 4 good outfielders. Say a combo of Eloy, Robert, and say Luis Gonzalez, then using a platoon with pederson for LHP with Gonzalez (obviously this could be wrong but I don't know what to make of the fact that Gonzalez absolutely destroyed LHP despite being a LH batter), then you are talking about the kind of depth that competes with Astros, yankees and red sox. And I thought that was the goal, not to take a weak division for a year like the 2017 minnesota twins. I know it sucks to watch garbage. And I don't like the idea of just continuously pushing out the window of contention. But this team is still 90% garbage on the ML roster. Adding machado helps. It doesn't change a lot of it. Adding pederson will be nice. I don't think it moves us past, say, 80 wins even with both and significant jumps from moncada and good jimenez.

What did Matt Holliday do this time

I remember when I thought leaked numbers meant it was close Now I remember that JD Martinez contract was basically well known for two months before he signed it.

This is why it’s important Halladay got in so easy. His overall numbers are on the low end of HOF pitchers, but for the new era of how pitchers are used they will certainly be in the safe, if not high, end of hall of fame pitchers moving forward.

He is by far the most obsessed over “kinda nice” player on this site.

How could we have taken Bohm again?

Does Comas make top 30? Last year I would have hoped many more from 2016 class made this list. Production from INTL classes continues to elude this franchise.

I think part of it is the back log finally starting to clear up.

Glad Halliday made it. He is going to be a good realistic modern comp for today’s starting pitchers.

It removes the lower 1/3 range of sprint results to eliminate “non-hustle” plays.

Because you replied to his post talking about platooning with "Please lets get real" and didn't have anything to say about platooning.

I think if they acquire Pederson they should let him play vs lhp this year and see if it can improve with more consistent reps. For others, well, we have two catchers who hit pretty well off lefties. Lets get Tim Anderson reps as emergency catcher.

Doesn't the avi footspeed thing undercut your argument that it matters significantly to his defensive value? That said, dodgers were very good at shifting for machado so same case might exist for Pederson.

hmm, thought you were going to say guaranteed rate was bought by american family insurance.

2 out of the last 4 years (yes including college) he's been so bad he's been shut down or demoted. The sox have not gave information that he was still hurt when he returned.

Ottavino signed, but yes it seems like final offers are in and teams are just going to wait.

I also wouldn't be opposed to trading Hansen. The guy has had multiple years now where he has completely lost the thread and becomes unusable. Even if he recovers this year it will hang over him that he might come back from spring training with no idea how to pitch.

If you target joc pederson, and cannot make value work, you don't sign carlos gonzalez or adam jones, you just don't sign anyone.

It is likely he costs significantly more than people anticipate (I don't thinkt hat poster that through out basabe was wrong). The one way to mitigate that could be taking on salary from Rich Hill contract. Pederson is valuable right now, he will cost more than people think, it is a real debate whether that's a good move for sox. I think there is rightful worry that our talent acquisition hit its peak and will not be supplemented much from our draft classes and certainly not intl fa after 2 years sitting out. So trading from the surplus too early could pay out in a single playoff birth but its not necessarily hitting the "waves of talent, consistent competitor" goals laid out by hahn early in the rebuild. But, despite that I'm still on the fence. I think these things can pay off. To me he's an example of a player that could be on verge of taking off and even with two years it gives you benefits, including exclusive re-negotiating rights.

Then you should want Carmelo Anthony to play.

I guarantee that garpax are trying to pay back JR for Hoiberg's salary and are intent on accumulating as much cash as possible. This is how we plan to utilize our cap space.

Everyone around fulmer loves him. But I think that should give some pause on how much stock you should put in "makeup" at least for a pitcher. A weaker makeup may mean Fulmer is out of baseball at this point, but it also didn't help him understand his body motion any better.

Right, basically the sucky thing is that a repeatable motion didn't seem to make him command any better.

I k ow that it is in the spirit of providing them in that they get additional value they can use, but I’m still quite annoyed at the thought of a team trading a competitive balance pick to the freakin Yankees.