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Man nfl is crazy. It was just two years ago the raiders were loaded with young talent.

Waters was also in latest board update on FG. I let my BA account lapse so I can't speak for them.

I'm not sure it's possible, but also that will be a tough contract to trade. Compensation may not be what AZ fans hope. It's about $8 mill they'd need to trade back

All three are in mlb pipeline. Pache was like 37 in fangraphs.

He literally just listed three for you. Riley and Pache are good.

I get wanting to win (I wanted to win too), and I am also tired of moral victories, but it's hard not to note that the bears were in a competitive game against the patriots considering the last few times they played (even considered playoff potential teams) they were blown out by a combined score of 87-30.

Kevin white is basically the "rudy" of the team right now.

I think it's a trubisky thing more than a Robinson thing. Robinson doesn't get much separation but he can catch contested balls. Trubisky clearly favors the guys that appear more open (but then don't fight for ball at all if he underthrows)

I'm much more okay with a "down" game with Trubisky that looks like this than the AZ/Seahawks games. Pats are just real good at making the QB the guy to beat you while also making it very difficult on the QB (opposite of the fangio approach that appears to be "make it easy as possible for QB so long as they keep it in front of you"). The technique that gets so off with him is tough. That's something that's teachable but also something that many guys never learn. It felt like he gritted out a decent game, I do blame ST more (perhaps there was something wrong with parkey hence the never kicking longer field goals and the short kick that led to TD). We are at a point now where the offense can play in a shootout. That's a development. The defense regressed, that's weird! I really hate this play where Mack is banged up and a little less effective...so we just completely remove him from the play and send him to coverage.

In just crushing news, Jontay Porter tire his ACL in a scrimmage yesterday. Aside from Mizzou losing its best player, just feel bad for him who would def be in an NBA roster had he gone pro.

I’m not really that much a believer in these “star” managers. The only one I’d stop everything for is Francona. That said, Girardi in my book is much better than Renteria, so I don’t see a reason not to unless you tell me the money he’s paid will prevent Sox from doing more in FA.

It was sudden too. In June I felt really, really good. In August it seemed like it was the beginning of a 5 year process.

Unfortunately the White Sox do not get the benefit of the doubt here.

I've never seen anything like that. The fairly in-depth Boston Globe piece basically said the sox had Moncada/Kopech agreed on through the weekend but had been haggling on third piece until sox finally relented and went for basabe/diaz.

I love this post. Question for me is not whether the losses this year require wholesale changes. It's whether the progress this year indicated that no changes are needed to get the team where it wants to go. Is it really necessary to wait until more consequential lapses in development or injuries before a coach is fired? Clearly, talent aand youth had an issue to do with the team issuing the highest number of walks and lowest number of ks, and leading the league in ks on offense. But where does instruction and development staffs play there? Did the sox consider this a good job? This doesn't require firing, but it may require hiring additional resources. I have a hard time believing after this year that the answer is "no this staff is clearly the one best positioned to get us to playoffs"

This is an example of stuff I really admire about the NBA. From stats to media, they really push to enhance fan experience:

No it was really bad. He just cannot stay with his assignments on the perimeter and then he just starts pointing wildly. Switches didn't help him at all.

One thing though is that people in the city often like having the sports team.

I see a lot of young players play much better defense than LaVine. His youth is a crutch.

Parker and LaVine are “young” but are vets to are actual young players. I hate the effort they are learning from them on defense.

Boy.

I don't disagree with your assessment that the strategy the sox had put themselves on with a maxed out payroll and no farm meant they could not compete with that core. But I disagree that it was circumstantial, or inevitable. I think a different group in charge could have done worse than Hahn and co, or better than hahn and co. I think talent for team building is a thing and Hahn isn't good at either recognizing those in the org who are good at it or the organization isn't allowing those who are good at things to thrive.

It is taken as true that we need to wait for draft classes. I know that that is probably true. That said, I am less confident that our 16/17/18 classes are very strong. I love Madrigal. I think the 17 class looks really bad right now. The 16 class looks like some possible starters. But 5 years averaging top ten, it's just not good enough. It's "fine". It's one foot in, one foot out. I can obviously demand more, but I'm asking that the White Sox org demands more.

The logic here just seems off. Money by itself doesn't guarantee success. But a quality FO + money theoretically had the opportunity to turn a $200 million into a playoff team. Some of that could have gone to a good free agent signing. Some of that could have been picking someone like danny valencia off waivers or trade with what sox had. Is danny valencia good? No, but in 2015/16 he returned a lot more than we did with Gordon Beckham and Conor Gillaspie. Sox could have signed Justin Turner in 2014. Sox could have kept Junior Guerra. Sox could have signed Rich Hill. And people will say "well you can't just take all of the success stories as if those teams knew" but the white sox have sure had bad luck with every free agent since jose abreu while other teams have signed on, traded or by some way acquired non $200 mill contracts that have been big contributors. There is a total lack of surprise players in this org. The best example it feels we had was tommy kahnle

The thing is, it just feels like an actual good front office can acquire talent even with an $80 mill payroll, an $120 mill payroll or a $200 mill payroll. The sox said they were shifting to talent accumulation in 2013, with shifts in the road back and forth. I am very underwhelmed by everything aside from their returns to trading some of the most valuable, cheap talent available in baseball. Milwaukee found great value on waivers. So have Dodgers. Padres found great value in LatAm market. So did Braves. Red Sox found great value in mlb draft. Yankees and Astros found it everywhere. The white sox have really only shown to find great value by trading all stars on cheap contracts.