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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) Why is it ridiculous? A Cy Young form implies the best in the league. Where is Santana's history that he's been able to keep that form more than 1/2 a season? He's got more than enough starts under his belt now to determine if he's going to be consistently great or occasionally great. Pedro is another pitcher that comes to mind that has yet to prove to any one he can be consistently great. I see Santana & I think of Pedro. BTW did you look at his pc (93)? Kind of odd for a guy who gives up 4ER in the 1st & then shutsout a team for the next 4 innings. Why not let him pitch another inning? Could it be he ran out of gas? The score was 7-4 at the time. Not a typical situation were you would yank your starter after the 5th. He's not invulnerable & he may not be long lasting either. Riiiight, so you're trying to prove to me that Johan isn't that great by comparing him to Pedro?? What history would you like to see, last year was the first year he was a full time starter and he was coming off surgery during the offseason and you're going to use that to base it on him not being in cy young form, whatever.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) For anyone watching the game, it's the top of the tenth -- and tell me that Carlos Lee doesn't go hard into second base. He prevented Walker by turning that, he absolutely took out Walker... Haha, I knew this thread was coming.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:11 PM) Without question it's C Lee. I witnessed his talent as a CubKilla in person both at the Cell & at Wrigley. I will always think of Carlos when they play the chi-town series. A jugger post without numbers

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 02:41 PM) That tells me he's lost some of his Cy Young form & it might take him 1/2 a season to figure it out again. He had one bad stinkin inning and he's lost his cy young form, I don't think so. Now, I'm not saying Johan is going to be as good as he was last year because he was unhittable last year but for you to come to that conclusion after 1 bad inning is ridiculous.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 10:15 AM) We need to worry about the Indians and Tigers just as much as we need to worry about the Twins. We'll have our hands full, believe me. I disagree 100 percent but that's why they play the games

And Mientkiewicz just doubled.

QUOTE(Hall of Famer @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 12:58 PM) What channel is this game on? TBS.

Actually I have to bump graffy down to 2nd. Singleton was my favorite player when he was here, he just slipped my mind when I was thinking of ex sox players.

Not to mention if you turn on the game you get to hear Chip Carey

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) is graffy still with the royals? Yup.

Frank was unbelievable and still is awesome. Hopefully he gets back to full strength and can be a major factor, in the mean time Carl's playing great baseball and because of that Frank can be 100 percent before he comes back.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) I have no love lost for david wells. He showed what a classless act he was when he was with us. Ass. Agreed, I hope he gets rocked all year.

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) Santana is not god everywhere I look its "I wish we werent facing Santana" I say bring it, and im sure our players are thinking the same.. lets f*** him up like Seattle did in the first inning.. We got to santana last year at the beginning of the season in one game and the other we beat him in we scored on a 2 run homer in the first and didn't score the rest of the game. Santana is as good as there is in baseball. That being said Mark in so slouch, this is the game where we're going to most likely have to run to score some runs, I think the sox are capable of doing so but it ain't going to be easy.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 10:34 AM) Tony Graffanino He's probably mine too, I loved graff when he was here.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) ??? Silva is their #3 starter and he's pretty good. I think he means he isn't crying about it

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 04:49 PM) I'm sorry, Rowand, that's a dumb reason. A guy with a .384 career SLG% has no business hitting fifth, in front of a guy like Rowand -- hell, he should be hitting last, right behind Uribe -- he's an awesome bunter, and Ozzie supposedly like Uribe for his speed, they could've done some hit-and-runs down there. Ugh... Prove me wrong, Timo. Keith, not saying I agree with it but that's why I think he's doing it. I do like Timo but I agree with you he should be hitting 9th in the lineup today, hopefully he just goes out and has a good game.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 04:37 PM) Timo hitting fifth?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! And 3E8, I realize those are some good Metradome splits, but he is not a fifth hitter. I'm sorry, that's pretty inexcusible... Ozzie's doing this so everyone stays in their normal spot in the batting order so they dont get jerked around the lineup and moved all over the place.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 12:45 AM) "So much for Ozzie [Guillen's] speed ball," Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said of his Chicago counterpart. "They're hitting home runs already on us." Is it just me or are we still heavily reliant on the HR. I know Hawk and DJ keep talking about small ball non-stop but we have 3 wins and 2 of them were because of HR's...(and pitching but talking hitting wise). Idonno I like Pods stolen bases and no one seems to be really swinging for the fences with the exception of Dye's HR but he hit it so cant complain. Just wanted to say we still seem like a HR reliant team to me. We don't have to rely on the homerun though. Some games we're going to win games with it and when we dont we have the pieces to win games by playing small ball and that's how ozzie and kenny wanted this team built. It's a balanced offense so they can beat you in different ways.

Lebron's a great player and you really can't argue otherwise. I don't even understand why people compare him to Jordan, for me Magic is definitely the better comparison. I do disagree about him being the best overall player in the nba, imo that's still Tim Duncan.

QUOTE(CubKilla @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 12:53 PM) Sox should also be 4-0 if it wasn't for s***go the junk-baller ruining my entire f***ing day of drinking on Thursday. Or they could still be 3 and 1 if it wasn't for wickman the fatass leaving all his sinkers up on Weds, look at it how you please.

QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Apr 9, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) Looks awesome blacksox but you can't click on it.

Wow, did this thread go down the s***ter

It's actually pretty funny to look at the al standings. Everyone in the league is 2 and 2 except the sox and rangers(who are 1 and 3).

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 11:50 PM) With Ozuna getting a start in left, it looks more and more as if Timo's days with the Sox are numbered with Frank coming back. Nah, Pablo can play left and ozzie just wants to get as many righties as possible in against Johan. Ozzie and kenny like Timo to much to get rid of him, as do I

QUOTE(GreenSox @ Apr 8, 2005 -> 11:48 PM) Guillen did today what he should have done yesterday: let hermanson pitch the 9th. I disagree about that but it's time to move on anyways. I will say I hope the next time their is a save opportunity that Ozzie doesn't even hesitate and goes right to shingo to let shingo know that ozzie has confidence in him