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QUOTE(shoota @ Jul 9, 2006 -> 12:22 AM) It's better to trade for a player when his value is low. So this is what I've gathered from you: Lets trade our best prospect(calling bmac a spect since he's gonna be a starter but is in the pen now) for a pitcher who used to be good but has just sucked so far this year and is an injury risk, yet lets also trade Chris Widger for Miguel Olivo because Olivo is having a good year but Widger has the history of being able to handle a pitching staff well.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jul 9, 2006 -> 12:20 AM) By pitching better than Freddy G, Vazquez and Garland. He should probably do that first in the NL before he comes over to a league that is 10 times better.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 9, 2006 -> 12:17 AM) How exactly would Mark Prior help the Sox win this year? 7 era's and injuries=helpful, duh.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jul 9, 2006 -> 12:11 AM) The real, and only legend in that deal was Jeremy Thomas Reed. Don't you ever make that mistake again..... EVA!! jreedfan8 sucks.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 08:35 PM) Over the course of their careers, they usually are inferior to the power guys. Think about it. The only top 5 pitcher ever that wasn't a power pitcher is Greg Maddux and you see how much he's struggled in the playoffs. That 3.22 era in the playoffs, awful I tell ya.

Pablo Ozuna needs no help.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 11:35 PM) Even if the light never flips for Olivo, and he has to receive his signs from the dugout, his .291 average and cannon throwing arm is still a better alternative than Chris Widger. Olivo is not going to hit .290 all year and cannon arm or not he's not throwing out anyone when Freddy is on the mound either. I'm also sure a guy like Mark Buehrle would just love to have Olivo behind the plate when he's pitching to slow him down completely.

DRAGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is NO W IN SOX. That is all.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 10:06 PM) I agree with the contention that 2003 was not a terribly good team and that 2006 is vastly superior. I think that 2003 is overrated in a lot of minds here. That team had some great talent, but I don't think every really was a true threat to win the World Series or even make the play-offs. If you want to make a comparison of '06, I would do this one, but hear me out before you reply. 2006 White Sox : 2005 White Sox :: 2005 Red Sox : 2004 Red Sox. The later editions of both teams had a lot of expectations after winning the World Series, both had big rotation issues, and neither seemed to have the pen nailed down for a long stretch. That said, we should take the 2006 Red Sox as encouragement. Moves can be made to really solidify this team this coming off season and make it a real power. I guess this is the new favorite comparison for everyone to make. I guess I understand why everyone is making it but it's still very far off, it's not even close. As bad as our pitching has been, we're still an above average pitching team at this time. That is with everyone minus JC pitching below their career numbers in our rotation. The top two in our rotation at this time are still better than anything Boston had in their rotation last year, and our pen is 90 times better than their's was. They had 0 good starting pitchers and they didn't have a closer. I know why people want to throw out that comparison but even with our pitching underachieving a lot as of now, 06 White Sox pitching>>>>>>>>>>>>>>05 Red Sox pitching

When exactly were the 03 sox 25 games over .500. Lets state some more similarities, for most of the first half of 03 the offense absolutely stunk and couldn't get anything done, same with the 06 sox I guess......oh. Next, this was the time period where our 5 starters couldn't win a game to save their lives, the 06 Sox have 9 wins from their 5 starter. This team has problems that it needs to work out and this very well might have been the most frusterating game I've ever been to but this comparison is absolutely awful.

Dustin pitched again. An inning, 0 hits, 2 walks and a k

QUOTE(G&T @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) Hes out 4-6 weeks with a torn rotator cuff. That's according to the Score. Ya, 4-6 weeks, right....

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 06:31 PM) I'm behind the plate after the game today and this lady comes up to me and says "can i take a picture of your jersey?" Somewhat confused, i say sure...Steff says "Are you Brandon's mom?" "Yes" Her and what must have been his aunt take pictures of my jersey, saying it's the first one they've seen, and they were quite impressed. I felt like a celebrity. Brandon's mom was very nice and says she reads here sometimes...she recognized "steff" from the board, which gave us a laugh. She also thought i was her son, which gave us another laugh. Anyway, the McCarthy's were very nice people, kind of cool to meet them in that fashion. This never happened you liar.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 09:23 AM) Looks as of Gordon is at least going to give IU a visit. From Sports Illustrated: That's pretty interesting.

Freddy's era is actually higher during the day this year. Another interesting stat is that his era is almost a whole run lower at home this year.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 09:19 AM) For the stat guys ... isn't Freddy Garcia generally a better pitcher during day games, I thought I'd heard or read that. It's not something I keep track of but it may come into play today? Last year he was just dominant during the day, not sure about this year though.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 08:26 AM) I can't remember off hand but I'm pretty sure it was lower than Pierzynski's, the roles have reversed this year and it makes no absolutely sense. I also recall it being lower than Aj's. Like you said, doesn't make much sense.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 08:16 AM) Actually I'm pretty sure Garcia is better when Widger catches him. Gotcha. Do you know what his cera was from last year? Like I said before, I find it really hard to believe that all of the sudden he just forgot how to call a game.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 07:53 AM) His defense doesn't bother me that much. That probably has to do with the fact that, a few days ago, he acknowledged his failures and said he was frustrated with himself over it, and said, "I've been playing like horses***" or something relating to fecal matter. If he weren't trying to fix it and work on it, I'd be angrier with him. I do get frustrated when he errs, but not enough to want him gone or call him a bad player. Maybe because he's such a "sexy ass", since that's the only reason to want Pods on your team. I respect for Pods for admitting he's been awful out there, however that's just not good enough. It's nice that he knows it but he has to improve, he's seriously just horrendous out there and it's frusterating as all hell. Then when you factor in the guys speed and realize he's one of the worst left fielders in baseball it becomes even more irritating.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 04:41 AM) cell phones rawk ^^^

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 07:37 AM) He's been real good for the past 2 months or so. It may be a long winding road, but the potential is still there for everyone to see with those 4 pitches he can throw. Yup. He's definitely someone you're going to have to be patient with considering how raw he is. It is very nice to see him improving though and hopefully it's the start of good things to come from Wes.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 07:23 AM) When Podsednik is on a roll, he is genuinely our ignitor. He gets on base, scares the hell out of pitchers, and steals. He works the count better than anyone on our team except Thome -- although, yes, he does strike out looking a lot, too. I'm not sure why he isn't stealing as much as before, but I wonder what kind of calls he's been getting from Ozzie in-game. Maybe Ozzie isn't letting him steal as much, or asking him not to because of an increases confidence in our offense. I don't know. Right now, he's not doing so hot, although his batting average has been up in the last few weeks. He's been, obviously, a streaking player all year. Bad, good, bad good. I for one am not willing to give up on him, or go after him, partially because I think he does a very good job getting on-base, and partially because the talent is there for him to steal sixty or so bases and cause all the havoc in the world during a game. When talking about last year's team, KW once said that a lot of the players we had acquired would not have been acquirable if they had been off of good years instead of bad ones. I know Pods was one of the players he referenced with that. AJ, too. But, hell, I don't think Scotty's year has been too bad this year. Not at all. -------- I have a feeling that, today, we're going to come out blasting away at the Red Sox. Like the Baltimore series. Pods has the green light all the time, I'll guarantee you that. Ever since the injury last year he just hasn't been able to get the same jumps as he used to. I think he's realized that and has slowed himself down a bit. To be honest, I have no problem with Scott's offense like most here, I just can't stand his defense.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jul 8, 2006 -> 06:30 AM) How come Widge caught good games last year and this year everytime he's behind the plate, the pitcher gets shelled? Should we blaim the pitchers or him? Is he really calling that bad of a game? It's interesting, because iirc his cera last year was pretty solid and that doesn't seem to be something you would just all the sudden get much worse at over the course of a year. That being said, it also can't be a coincidence that all of our pitchers have pitched worse with him behind the plate.

Been a while since I updated this so... thought this would be a good time. Wes, after getting off to a rough start has really settled down and has been very solid over his last several starts. Overall line this year: 3.34 era on 91 hits. He also has 50 k's and 41 walks in 99.2 innings pitched.