Wong & Owens

If Kerry wins, I think he'll beat Bush. If Kerry wins the nomination, he'll have shown he can garner support in the south and midwest. Bush rolls over any of the other candidates, unfortunately.

"Give me those!" (sound of GOWT ripping up Vince's history papers, throwing them on the ground and jumping on them)

NO, the hospital won't have it, the city hall will. Fano'14 has to head over to the Oak LAwn village hall (on 52nd avenue, I believe), they should have it there.

A f***** is also an Olde English term for a small bundle of wood. "Master William, get thee to the hearth this instant, and thou bringeth a f***** of wood as well!"

Are you sure you were physically born in Chicago? I ask because I always thought because my parents lived in Chicago, that was the city of record for my birth. However, because the actual hospital where my mom pushed me out was in Evergreen Park, I had to go to E.P. to get my birth certificate. You might have to do a connecting flight--Ottawa probably does not have an International Airport. Stay the hell away from the Montreal airport though. Place sucks donkey balls.

Oh, wow, a website where some dips*** rants on and on about their boring life and how everything sucks. That's sooooo 2001.

You have to go to the actual town you were born in, they'll have it on file at city hall. I found flights to Nova Scotia, so I can't see how it would be harder to find some to Ottawa. Maybe try AirCanada?

You've got to be kidding. Care to put some money up on this? There is NO validity in comparing the 2004 U.S. with Nazi Germany. None, zero, zip, nada, bupkis.

You don't need a passport, just a birth certificate and a photo ID. Try any of the following: priceline, orbitz, travelocity.

Yah, it's s*** pay to mr. moneybags over there. Of course, being that no one really knows much about anyone on a message board, I could say I made $70,000 off a tricycle design at age 4 and nobody could prove me wrong.......

My sentiments exactly Jim, and I'm not even having kids! You got a million, call me Jm J. Bullock.

You mean a one-time occurance, right? I'd do it for the right price--I wouldn't even think twice about it. A few minutes of pain/discomfort for financial security for the rest of my life? I am more than secure enough in ego and in sexuality to take that deal.

I'm not exactly sure how this fits into the thread here, but after reading the last couple pages, I got to thinking about how men seem to be suckers for nubile hotties, while women seem to have a weak spot for men with power/money(Yes, I realize it doesn't apply to everyone, but it's a pretty accurate generality). It would seem that somewhere deep in the genetic makeup of a man/woman there is something that causes us to be susceptible to such things. I would guess that, going back to the earliest form of man, when simply propegating(is that the right word? Or am I skytalking here? Just call me Mike Tyson) the species was a more urgent and difficult task, genetics would cause the male to choose healthy, good-looking women because they would make great baby-carriers. In turn, the female would be attracted to the leader of the tribe, or the guy with the biggest cave, because he would seem best suited to provide for and protect future children. It would make sense then that this played a part in shaping the male and female roles in society, even up until recent times, and now we seem to be evolving out of it or perhaps using our will(the very thing that separates humans from other animals) to disregard it. Just a thought, does it make sense to anyone?

I think it's related to the gene that makes fat guys go shirtless at football games

I don't believe it. If there's one guy that actually responds to those ads for penis-enlargement pills, it's ol' slick willie.

Did this co-worker drive to work? I'd tell someone, anonymously. You don't want to take the chance that he/she might get someone else hurt.

You have a class called Jesus? "Hey, ChiSoxy, want to go grab something to eat later?" "No, I can't, I have too much Jesus homework." "I took Jesus, Jesus is hard." "Yeah, I think I may flunk Jesus. I'll flunk if I don't do well on next week's Jesus Lab project." I'm sorry, I'm sure I'm only entertaining myself here. I'll shut up now.

b****in, I learned something new today! The pair of hand mill stones is worth more than the negro woman. What a bizarre time.

I didn't say that there was no corroborating proof that ANY person in the bible existed, just that there are plenty of folks whose names only exist thanks to the bible at this point(saying most do may be overreaching on my part, I'm really not sure enough to say that yet). I would expect that you'd find more corroboration for people such as kings, queens, rulers etc, than you would for Job, Noah, Issac, et al, yes? Is there one piece of non-biblical data that exists that proves the existence of Moses? You'd think with the way he messed up the pharaoah's s***, it would be painted on a wall somewhere in Egypt or something.

Benjamin Arnold? Who the hell is that? I've heard of Benedict Arnold.........

I would argue that it conatins plenty of things that most people have dismissed. For example, I don't think anyone really believes anymore that adam and eve is a true story, or Noah and the Ark, or the Red Sea, etc. We don't really know if the writers of the bible got things wrong or not--there's simply not enough corroborating data to say right or wrong. There's no real proof that most of the people in bible even existed--esp in the O.T.--the only evidence that they existed at all is found in the bible. The bible doesn't concern itself with documenting world events, so who knows if what it says really happened or not. Also, the stories they wrote don't require much knowledge of anything other than folklore passed to them, and a language to write with. It's not like the bible was describing how DNA works or anything. It's full of descriptive tales and exaggeration. I would argue that the main reason it hasn't been dismissed by society is that A)we don't have enough knowledge yet to disprove it(but we've only used it for 2000 years. There are plenty of ancient religions, now regarded as bunk, that existed that long), and B) People are dismissing it without saying they dismiss it. It's no coincidence that Catholic schools are closing due to shrinking enrollment, or that churches are seeing smaller and smaller audiences. How many people fast on fridays? What's the divorce rate these days? How many people are becoming priests/nuns anymore? All these answers point towards dismissing religion, even if most folks are too scared by what they were taught in childhood to come out and say so.

I believe that the bible was written by very clever storytellers that used these tales to explain why people need morals, values, etc. much the same as people use them today. Humans want reasons for things, and the bible provided them. The greatest achievement of the bible writers, IMHO, was creating a system has not been neither proven nor disproven up to this point. Again, IMO, the church rose to power when some cunning people found a way to manipulate these stories and use them to gain power over susceptible, less-knowledgeable folk. This was much easier to do back then, when people couldn't even figure out what shape the planet was. I believe that if the concept of christianity was hatched today, it would die in minutes because there are many more resources and tests available to challeneg anyone who writes that "moses parted the red sea," or "jesus rose from the dead after 3 days." As for your last point, I agree that we could not understand the life of god, or its divine plan. But if that is true, then why tell humanity that their purpose is to get to heaven by being good, et al? If that is the plan, then it's obviously not hard to understand, and if it's not, then why tell us it is? It seems contradictory--either it's not to hard to understand, and therefore very disappointing, or it is too hard to comprehend, in which case I ask, why make s*** up or tell us anything at all? What is the answer? As Brant said in The Big Lebowski--"Well, dude, we just don't know."

I believe that someone(something?) put us here, and I believe that-- given the obvious intellectual and creative superiority of an entity that could, say, create a universe-- the reasons are for "us" being here are beyond our comprehension at this point. I think the overall themes of religions are far too simple and pedestrian to serve as a mandate from any real higher power. If any of today's religions were at some point proven to be the true words from the big guy or gal, I would almost be disappointed that that(meaning what has been written in the bible, torah, koran, etc.) was our purpose for being. I don't believe any modern religion carries any more weight than does say a copy of Aesop's Fables. I remember back to a conversation I had with a mother of one of the girls I coached in volleyball. Somehow she got me into a discussion in which I revealed my discarding of religion as a whole. Her biggest problem with that was that she couldn't understand how anyone could raise kids without having religion to guide them to the right path. What she, knowingly or not, was doing, and this is something that parents have done for centuries, was telling me that she could not raise a child to be a good person without having this mysterious, omnipotent "headmaster" concept to hold over their heads at any time. It's so much easier to tell a child to be good or else "you'll go to hell because that's what god says," rather than explain to them that nobody has any real answers, that the world is very complicated, or that even when you are a good person, life is often hard and unfair. Is there life after death? I hope so, my human brain has a hard time coming to terms with an end to my existence. But, if life in some form does exist after the body dies, I probably couldn't understand it, at least not now. We can prove that the unverse is huge and contains millions of planetary bodies. And that's only what we can prove today. Does anybody really believe deep down that we are the only intelligent life anywhere? Assuming we're not, do you really think that should we find life somewhere else, that they're worshipping jesus, allah or yahweh? I doubt it. Of course, if I'm wrong, I'm going to be in big, big trouble.......

I would accept the deal sans the "fourth player" just fine provided we can lock up Perez for a reasonable price for 3-4 years.

My closest match was Joe Lieberman, and my least compatible was Dick Cheney(he's not even a candidate, is he?) I support Wesley Clark or Lieberman, I haven't decided yet.