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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:03 PM) Jon Garland could be a guy the Sox rebuy at a low point on. He doesn't have the stuff of Javy but he's been a league average pitcher throughout his career and at times has been just above league average. He also always gives innings and is comfortable. I could totally see Garland back on the southside. Garland will prob accept arb from the Angels.

QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:03 PM) Adam Dunn. Well, we DO know there is going to be a hole in either RF or LF depending on where they put Q. Of course KW would rather be a more athletic team.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 06:01 PM) Thankfully, I don't even have to flip out and panic at the suggestion, because this team is simply too smart to throw 4+ year deals at pitchers, let alone pitchers with horrid injury histories. But there are a few pretty good SP's out there that would only command 3 year deals......

QUOTE (tommy @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:51 PM) I don't necessarily see how this deal makes the White Sox better in 2009. The money saved will though.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:48 PM) I cant see adding another LH SP like Reyes, and one that struggled in the NL none the less. Maybe Jurrjens, Locke, or Rohrbourgh along with Lillibridge and Flowers? I then assume that Lillibridge is being brought in to play CF. Jurrjens isnt going anywhere, he is slotted in their rotation for the next few years.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:47 PM) Outstanding, if this is true. This might even up the possibilty of an AJ trade (though, i hope not) Due to the development of Armstrong. Flower's + the Cell= Many a You Can Put It On the Board I got a text that the third player is a MLB arm, but looking for confirmation.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:41 PM) I am so glad Javy is gone. If the Braves contend he will suck. If they have a year like 2008, he may shine. I'm sure Texsox will think nothing of it, but of the 3 guys who went home instead of sticking around after not making the playoff roster if Logan is in this deal, only Broadway is left on the roster,and I don't think he's long for the White Sox. I think you'll see Broadway dealt in the next two weeks, most likely for a light hitting CF'er

Lill, Flowers and a young arm. KW saw Flowers in the AFL.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:23 PM) Do you mean this as is Vazquez isnt enough for him, or you actually know the package? Im just curious if you know whos coming back, and what that big spending that you mentioned that would follow would be. Because they arent trading him for Javy.

QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:21 PM) Depends if we got Escobar as part of the package or not...I guess we'll find out tomorrow. He's not.

QUOTE (sayitaintso @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:18 PM) Yeah, right before he tucked me in. Booner the spooner

QUOTE (sayitaintso @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:16 PM) I for one am personally going to miss Boone. Did he rub your feet at night?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:07 PM) You got any idea of what we're looking at? A pretty good idea. Let's put it this way: We arent unloading money just for the hell of it at this point, we are making space for a purchase.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 05:03 PM) We better get a better deal then f***ing Lillibridge and fatty Jo Jo Reyes. Reyes isnt in the deal from what I hear. And you may not like the deal straight up, but wait until KW spend the money saved....

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 04:58 PM) Can anyone confirm? I hear its mostly done. Payroll just fell..... And this should set off another deal......

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 04:18 PM) Lillibridge has pop, speed, and disipline. Plus, he can play SS/Cf. Reyes was the #8 prospect in the Braves organization. We're talking Javy here, not Peavy. We should seriously considering taking a deal built around these two players. Uh yeah, that would be a decent package. And it says 3 players, which means those two plus another guy.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 02:16 PM) Well, if I tip every other beer (which I usually do) I'm still tipping around 20 percent, but I'm not going to give the bartender a dollar tip for every $2 beer I buy (usually the price at the bar I go to at NIU). Ah, I miss college, where 20 bucks could last you all night.

Right....from all that Cuban league action that you have seen...... When will people stop saying this crap, when its simply not true. You mean he has grown from age 16 to 19? Holy s***!!! Put him in the OF before he fills up the infield!!!! And I would rank Danks ahead of Getz

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:23 PM) I need to become a bartender. That's nearly what I make in 2 weeks. You need to get a new job then. Keep in mind that if you have a corp job, half of the pay you get goes to taxes and your benefits, whereas bartender have that cash, but pay a huge lump sum on taxes at the end of the year and have to buy their own insurance which is expensive without that nice corp discount.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 01:18 PM) I am usually pretty good at tipping waitresses, delivery drivers, etc. But with bartenders, i'll tip them every other beer or every three beers. I'm not tipping someone for opening a bottle of Bud Light when they're already ripping me off. Ripping you off for what exactly? They are providing you a service, a location, and ammenities, if you dont want to pay for it then drink at home.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 09:45 AM) I think he was saying she makes that each night of weekend which adds up to over 1k. What kind of wacky math are you using. 300-400 bucks for friday and saturday adds up to 600-800 a weekend. Maybe you were counting Sunday night as a weekend night?

QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 11:25 PM) Only guys id vote in are Tim Raines and Rickey Henderson, I also imagine Mark Grace will eventually get in but he isn't a first ballot guy. That would be my vote too. Quite simply the two best lead off hitters of all time (that I watched).

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 07:14 PM) I think you need to look at it with some time-period perspective. Find another player during roughly his career period that was as productive as he was in power numbers - I am not sure you can find any. Actually, one of them is also on the list - Dale Murphy. The guy simply wasnt productive enough to be in the HOF IMO. He was a very good player, and is elevated by the fact he played his whole career for the Red Sox, and that they have been campaigning for him to be in.

QUOTE (Shadows @ Dec 2, 2008 -> 04:10 AM) There is absolutely ZERO chance that Boise State/Utah could beat Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, USC in consecutive weeks THAT. College football is not College Basketball people. There is a zero percent chance that a non-major teams runs through more than one good BCS school in a tourney. There will be years that a non-BCS school is as good as the BCS teams, and we could see Bowl "upsets", but in the end the bigger and better teams will win if its consecutive games like a tourney.

QUOTE (Shadows @ Dec 1, 2008 -> 10:10 PM) There are a lot of people who don't tip period at the bar.. I live in Katy, Texas.. Its not a major city, and there is no college around unless you count U of H which is 35 minutes away but people wont be coming out here to drink, they'd be going into Houston.. I only bring this up because my Ex Girlfriend who works as a bartender here would make $300 to $400 a NIGHT on the weekend.. That's Thursday, Friday, Saturday.. and that's with people who don't tip.. and shes not a waitress, she is behind the bar making the drinks and turning around and taking a cap off a bottle for someone.. If you don't feel that's worth a tip, don't tip.. I don't think its worth a tip either but I still throw em a couple bucks because it feels like you have to.. Either way, they are gonna be making a lot of money anyways.. Alot of money? I wouldnt consider making under 1k a week alot of money, it would barely be enough to live in Chicago after paying for your own insurance, saving for taxes at the end of the year, and any other benefits you may need.