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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) You know taking Danks out was a bad move when ESPN sports casters are bashing you. Yes, they are the picture of great sports minds.....

QUOTE (striker62704 @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 04:25 PM) Danks should have never been pulled. He was pitching great and only had 85 pitches thrown. Bad move Ozzie. Crede should have bunted Swisher over. Bad move Ozzie. How many times did the hitters choke with a runner on 2nd and less than two outs? Hitters sucked. Linebrink, tied game, bottom of the nineth, two straight fast balls, second one leaves the yard for a walk off homer. Linebrink doesn't learn. You fault him for giving his SP a chance to win the game by bringing on one of his best relievers? Thats just hindsight working against your intelligence there. Crede doesnt bunt. And Line through a sinker down and in, not even the two same pitches.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) Not really. If Jenks shuts them down in the 9th, you can't put him back in there in the 10th, 11th, 12th, etc. This is what happens when you don't take advantage of a mediocre pitcher like Lilly and leave too many on base. He hit a sinker down and in out into the jet stream. This is why the cubs win so much at home.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 04:20 PM) Ozzie with some bad managing and our famed bullpen collapses. Ugh... What a god awful way to start the series. Guys didnt hit, its their fault. 3 runs with what the cubs staff gave us is pathetic. Cubs pull out a lucky win and thats that.

Oh, and Sully, you should check out our stadium now as its much improved since it first opened. And yes, all those things you said about the emotions around 2005 are true. I get goosebumps opening a beer with my 05 championship beer opener, an xmas gift featuring the front page of the paper the next day teared me up months after it happened. The introduction before the game makes my hair stand on end. As far as fans go, its hard to be the second team in your city and I would say that adds to the passion and the dedication of Sox fans. Its not cool or popular to be a sox fan in this city, but if you are a fan, odds are you are a true fan, and thats the kind of people we are. We are all over the economic scale, no matter what the paper tells you, but we come from the working class background of this city, the cops, the firemen, the people who built buildings and bridges. We are a very diehard fanbase and will stay that way, even if our neighborhood doesnt turn into bar city, because we love this team.

The ghetto that was wrigleyville became an adult playground with a bar every 5 feet and afordable post-college apartments became the norm for the area. Out of towners who want to move to a big city after they graduate gravitate towards the much nicer areas of Lincoln park, and Wrigleyville. Thus the cubs get alot of "fans" every year. I'd much rather be a fan of a team I grew up loving, than a team of a city I just moved to just to belong. But I guess thats just me.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 10:03 AM) Man, that avatar is distracting. perfect body, Im memorized.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 09:47 AM) I love how when someone from the Sox organization is asked a question by the Chicago media about the Cubs, and they give an answer, they are "obsessed with the Cubs." lol. They are constantly asked baiting questions about the cubs, while cubs players arent asked the same types of questions. Its a cubs town, and the media likes to paint the picture of us constantly thinking and talking about the cubs, especially right before the series, it gives them something to write about. Look what crappy Joe Cowley asked KW about whether he would be the GM for the cubs. Did he go ask that same question to Hendry? no, because he wants to continue to write crap and be controversial.

it does suck though

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 20, 2008 -> 09:04 AM) the only thing Cubs fans should be worrying about, if they actually care about winning a WS, is Zambrano's shoulder. If it's serious they are pretty well screwed Yep. BUt they are instead worried about quotes in the paper, sox fans up north, and "bandwagon" Sox fans.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...mp;sportCat=mlb

Cubs fans are now praising Marriotti for his latest article. I really want to respect their fans as much as possible, but following Idiot Jay is pretty f-in retarded.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 11:26 PM) I wouldn't go as far as history. The World Series was the most important series in chicago history. As far as Wrigley behavior. Well it should be interesting. Last year the animals were at their fevered peak of angst locating every sox fan they could to either start a fight, throw a beer or taunt. I look forward to a repeat of last year when some fat drunken trixie in a Kerry Wood half shirt, calls my CIO and I a name and throws a beer our way. That and the socio-economic taunts are great. Nothing like some college kid who works at McDonalds on weekends throwing money barbs at strangers because we happen to be wearing sox apparel. I look forward to the 100 year anniversary of mopes coming out. I hope we get a nice victory so I dont have to hear the drunken morons singing their go cubs go beer song. The only other entertainment value is going to the local bars afterwards to see rogues gallery of drunks and drunk comedy. That is classic. Its funny how some newly graduated kid yells at me and tells me im poor because im wearing a Sox shirt in wrigleyville.

It shoudl be packed too, its right in the middle of Depaul territory. If anyone is going to the west loop or loop area, I will prob be at dugans right in greektown

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 08:56 PM) They get Danks, Contreras, and Vazquez, correct? Im just saying what they say on their board. They dont think the cubs will have a problem scoring double digits on our staff. Especially at home.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 07:53 PM) Cubs fans must be shaking in their boots now...wait'll the Sox take care of em. Nah, they all think they will route us. They think nothing of our pitching staff.

There really isnt one, but there will be plenty of Sox fans in those bars, I'll be there. Those bars arent really die-hard cubs places, they just feast on the wallets of tourists by hanging up flags.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 19, 2008 -> 08:36 PM) CARL CRAWFORD BTW, Joe Morgan, I heard today, said that Marmol is the best reliever in baseball. I firmly disagree- I'd take Rivera to get an out over any reliever EVER. nathan, K-rod, etc etc.

Hello nsbb.com lurker chuckywang and others. Welcome. Maybe you can explain how a 5-6 plus era sp like dempster with a career 1.51 whip, who has 4 plus eras in the pen the last 2 seasons has shaved his era in half, and has posted a whip nearly .50 lower than his career mark. Did he all of a sudden figure it out? Did the sudden increase in velocity come from offseason yoga? Did his gay glove dance confuse hitters? Is his peak really coming at age 31 after being ineffective as a starter early in his career? I'd like to know your reasoning and speculation. You don't like ours. Maybe there is a legit reason why hitters have lost about 70 points of baa against him all of a sudden....

QUOTE (greasywheels121 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) Haha, as others have said, so much for embellishing. Hell of a season, Tiger. He's already got 2008 player of the year on lock, and he's shutting it down with half of the season left. There would be few people on here that could walk up to the first tee with an injury like that, let alone go out and win a major tournament including a playoff. Its amazing.

QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 11:09 PM) Yeah...Soto is beating A.J. in a lot of offensive categories except average. As much as I love A.J., Soto deserves it a little more. He's better defensively as well, its a no-brainer to take soto. My team 1B-Lee 2B-Alexei (close with DeRosa, Im taking just Alexei's full time hitting stats, and he's superior defensively) SS-OC (mostly because of his defense) 3B-A-ram RF-f***UDome CF-Swish LF-Q C-Soto DH-Soriano/Crede Loogy-Logan Roogy-Dotel SU-Line and Marmol-honestly they are both awesome CL-Jenks Rotation- 1. Z 2. Danks 3. Dumpster-RLR is the reason he's 3 4. Javy 5. Floyd/Contreras Their lineup is outproducing ours, but our pitching is markedly better, especially in the bullpen. You also have to consider the AL-NL difference in regards to ERA.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 07:52 PM) Good baseball play OC you need to get OC and Swish's dance in your sig.

If Buehrle can be Buehrle, then we are very dangerous. This lineup is more diverse without Konerko-black-hole in the middle of it right now. I like the speed, the power from top to bottom, and the line drive guys we have right now. Swish apparently plays better when he's a full time 1B.

QUOTE (ChiSox35 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 04:04 PM) Detroit is hella scary at this point. Thank goodness for their inability to put s*** together in the early part of the season. I wonder if Thames launched one again. How so? We swept the Giants. They didnt have it quite as easy.

QUOTE (ChiSox35 @ Jun 18, 2008 -> 01:14 PM) Dempster was due back on the ground about 2 weeks ago. Every time he kisses mid-high 90's on the gun and shuts a lineup down, I get a teensy bit more suspicious of him. Just kicking this around, but... -100 years since the team won, attention team is recieving is at a fever pitch even compared to ridiculous coverage it usually gets. -You're converted back to a starter from a putz of a closer. Find success/help your team finally get there and you will become a god to millions of Cubs fans. -Contract situation. Last I heard he was locked up through 2008. This is 2008. Just Saying Where was his dominance when he was a closer? Its VERY suspicious. He's gained MPH on his fastball, which has now made his breaking stuff better. He hasnt shown ANY fatigue from increasing his workload. Its very strange. Although there are about 5 players on that cubs team that are playing extremely over their heads talent wise, and what their historic production has been.