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QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 01:07 PM) remember all the talk about the new "nasty boys" this winter? Or April.....

QUOTE(iamshack @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 04:02 PM) Fields has not even proven he is ready to play! This isn't like a Ryan Braun situation or a Ryan Howard situation. The kid still has plenty to improve upon in Charlotte and should do so until we have either no Joe Crede on the club anymore, or we get to September call ups. Meh, he hasnt exactly sucked. .279 .392 .889 10 bombs. He has also been raking in May.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 02:37 PM) Yeah, because 2K5 is completely right on this issue. I don't see a point where you can win this argument at all. On a winning team there is no place for fields right now. This isnt a winning team.

Rowand has been hitting well, has an OPS of 900+ and would make the outfield situation a little more bearable. Put Jerry in LF and lead off, and bat A-row after Konerko.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 11:58 AM) One game against the Cubs makes you a starter? How Felix Diaz these days? Felix Diaz? Is that really the best comparison? Masset has major league stuff, you cant deny that.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 11:54 AM) He has a WHIP of 1.64 above AA. How the hell does that translate into success as a starter? From watching him start. I think he will do well in the bigs as a starter.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 11:50 AM) So are the extra strikeouts and significant drop off in defense worth a few extra walks? Especially when Crede has a history of being a decent hitter. If he brings us something of worth, yes.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 11:35 AM) Maybe we can just pitch Masset when the wind is blowing in 20 mph or it's 20 degrees out. Hes going to be a solid starter in the near future, but he is not a relief pitcher. With that said, hes our only long man option.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 10:53 AM) Fields would probably be hitting about .150, striking out 35-40% of the time, and not fielding nearly as well as Joe. I disagree. I think he could easily hit over .200 with several walks and of course the k's.

Owens is clearly faster on a track, and im sure he has numbers out there. But Pie may be faster on the base paths.

Street fests in Chicago+Summertime=going to work drunk

"According to the Chicago Sun-Times, the White Sox may demote struggling relievers Mike MacDougal and David Aardsma to Triple-A. Meanwhile, the Chicago Tribune suggests that Nick Masset could be headed to the minors as well. The Sun-Times reports that Bret Prinz and Ryan Bukvich would be the leading candidates to replace them in the bullpen. The White Sox are said to be trying to trade MacDougal, who has a 7.13 ERA"

QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 10:18 AM) Anderson, Day, and MacDougal for Cordero from the Nats or Fuentes I want Fuentes bad and it looks like the Rockies want to deal him. His .84 WHIP would look damn good setting up Jenks

I hope that KW is on the phone with Colorado about Fuentes.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 10:12 AM) I'll agree to the extent that Crede looks like he'll end up as a sub-.200 hitter pretty soon. But Fields posting a decent OBP in Charlotte is way different than doing it against major league pitching. He's striking out at 30% rate against minor league pitchers. That rate will go up in the bigs, and he'd have to post an incredible BABIP to make up for it. If he keeps walking that will obviously help, but who knows if he can sustain that walk rate in the bigs. It's not like he has a long history as a high-OBP player.In any case, I agree the Sox should call him up and see what he can do. I'm just saying no one should expect success. Success is relative in this case. It wouldnt take much for him to produce as well as Crede, and if we can help him develop, get something for Crede, and save some money, its a win/win.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 10:09 AM) I said it then, and I'll say it again... we would never have gotten more for Joe Crede than we could have in this offseason. I mean, come on, aside from getting hot at the end of 2005 and having a decent 2006, he's been a huge disappointment. I'll never forget the contributions to 2005, but Crede classically overachieved last year, elected not to have surgery to repair his back, and now we're seeing a Crede that we'd be lucky to get a garbage can for... Oh, and all the b****ing about Joe not getting a Gold Glove? End it... Chavez is the better fielder! /story. I say deal him now before he slides more. His back is obviously a problem as his swing has taken a turn for the crappy. His pop ups are not a mistake, his swing is horrendous this year. Deal his ass and put Fields in there to hit 220

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 10:06 AM) I want to see Josh Fields up, though I know it won't happen. me too. Deal Crede please.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 09:47 AM) Agreed. Look at Fields strikeout numbers -- they are worse than Brian Anderson's and we all know how that turned out. Fields doesn't have the contact rate to succeed in the big leagues: southsidesox posted a comparison between him and Johnny Gomes that showed pretty similar minor league numbers except that Gomes had way more power. And Gomes isn't in the bigs. Anyone that expects any White Sox prospect to come up and have anything resembling success at the big league level is delusional. The system is absolutely barren. That being said, I'm all for calling up people and letting them play. It's possible a miracle happens and someone shows some talent or has enough of a hot streak to jack up their trade value. The season is already in the tank, so the Sox might as well play young guys. I guess you have a point if strikeouts were 100 percent of how to gauge a player. Brian Anderson also didnt have an almost 400 OBP like Fields does. But I guess you chose to ignore his actual statistics. Its not unfathomable to think that Fields could produce as well as Crede at this point.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 09:41 AM) Tampa Bay wants a relief pitcher for Elijah Dukes if the other team is willing to put up with him. His price would be pretty low right now and could probably be had for McDougal. Would you do it? Yes, starting CF'er with tons of pop.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 09:28 AM) Who knows, but at this point, I'm definitely not against trying something new. And Fields seems to be the best bet right now. This season is all but lost with these guys. Lets see who can play and who cant.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 09:08 PM) I noticed that...but neither did Fields as well. seriously at this point im shipping out Joe Crede and seeing if our spects are the real deal and can help us moving forward. Is there really any doubt that Fields could come up and hit 210-230?

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 01:44 PM) lets all guess who gets the 1st hit. im gonna say crede bloop singles next inning owens.

I have a psycho degree, im a software consultant. Majors are somewhat worthless unless you go into a specialized field IMO.

Paulie has been limping all season, im wondering if it is ever going to go away.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 12:48 PM) I saw more of an understanding of how to be a slap hitter by him last night than Pods has shown in years. That grounder he had in the hole that he easily beat us was very pretty. no kidding. It was like a flashback. Now the kid will struggle a little bit, and I know this, but i like the energy that these younger guys bring to the team, especially with their drive to help the team and do their job. I think it rubs off on the other guys.