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QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 11:15 AM) Heh, been trying to stay away from the basketball talk for a while, but just a few things... 1) Deng is NOT extremely good at guarding anybody. He simply does not have the foot speed to keep up with true scoring SFs, and he gets pushed around an awful lot because dude is built like Gumby. I'm not expecting people to be experts when it comes to judging defensive talent, but come on. Deng has the wingspan to make it hard for people to put up shots over him, and he can certainly defend the passing lanes, but he ain't gonna stop penetration, and he certainly can't hang with dudes that want to body him up. But it's funny, because Ben Gordon is so ungodly awful that he makes Deng look like a superior defender. I know that Bulls fans still ain't seeing it.... 2) Gasol is a top 5 scoring C in this league WITHOUT QUESTION. The guy could score 22 to 25 per game in the right system. Have you ever watched him play? I mean, have you ever really watched him? Jordan, this is some BS, man. Wallace has been incredible this year as far as I can tell. I know that I'm not getting the same games as everyone else. He is a Top 10 defender in the history of this game, but the minute he puts on a Bulls uniform, he's a bust? What's amazing is that people here can be so incredibly on-point when it comes to baseball, but the minute they try to talk basketball, it's just a bunch of crap. See the Tyson Chandler discussions. See the blind Ben Gordon love. It's so incredibly non-heterosexual (sorry Rex). Jesus, I knew you had to drop a Chandler line sometime in this thread. Deng is 21 years old, he still has plenty of time to fill out to be able to body up with the bigger SF's. As far as the perimeter, we use him to guard the likes of Kobe etc, and he is the only player we have that can do that with the size that we need. He is head and shoulders a better defender than Gordon, thats not even funny. Gasol and Deng's numbers are so similar im not sure if the bulls would take a step back bringing in Gasol. From watching the guy, i do not think he would improve this team to the point where we mortgage a future star like Deng, its a ridiculously short-sighted trade idea, and is nonsense.

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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 29, 2007 -> 05:33 AM) The thing is, I don't know if that's a luxury the Bulls have. Having a look at the draft, at the moment the Bulls would have the 11th pick. Oden, Durant and Noah are all definitely going top 5, while the likes of Hasheem Thabeet and Yi Jianlian are slated to go top 10. The only big on the board really round there could be Aaron Gray and I don't think the Bulls should go down that route. And if the Bulls go on the trade market, are they going to be able to trade for a big as good as Gasol in the off-season? Gasol is a bonafide top 5 C in the NBA, and players like that don't come along very often, because you build around them. The Bulls could trade Deng in a deal for Gasol, and then draft a Marcus Williams, Thaddeus Young or Al Thornton to replace Deng. I disagree, I think Deng is a better player and will be a better player than all those players you listed to draft. I also think at this point he is more valuable than Gasol. Gasol is only scoring 2 points more a game than Deng, and Deng IMO plays better defense and is extremely good at guarding the other teams best scorer. Also he is only 21 years old, which is the same age that alot of players are coming out of college, and he is already scoring 17 points a game in the NBA. There is no good reason to trade him at this point. Also I do not see Gasol as a top 5 C in the league, I think the trade talks have built him up more than he should be. He will give you 18 and 8 every game, is that really worth trading possible future superstars? I do not believe so.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 26, 2007 -> 11:47 PM) Trading the 21 year old Deng would be a huge mistake. It would be one of the worst moves we could make. It would be better to wait for next season to trade or draft a big man. Deng is a future superstar and is on the cusp of being a great player IMO.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2007 @ Jan 28, 2007 -> 06:54 AM) Um, yes, he could. Durant is that sick. Hahaha, thats just ridiculous. He would be the best player on one of the better teams in the NBA? lay off the crazy pills.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jan 26, 2007 -> 09:05 AM) Ben Gordon doesn't do it for me either, I personally would trade him in a heartbeat if he does infact have some sort of trade value. He's the bulls leading scorer and pretty high up in the list for the NBA. How could that not do it for you?

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Jan 24, 2007 -> 10:38 PM) Some fun facts from the Indiana - Illinois game last night: 1. IU went 17:24 with only one FG and 3 FT's from the middle of the first half until about 5 minutes into the 2nd half. 2. They scored a total of 11 points in a full 20 minute stretch from the 12:21 mark of the first half until the 12:25 (okay so it is really 19 minutes and 56 seconds) mark of the 2nd half. 3. IU scored 15 points in the games 1st 6:15. That's 2.4 points per minute or a 96 point pace. 4. IU scored 28 points in the 33:45 of the rest of the game. That's .83 points per minute or a 33 point pace. I don't want to take anything away from Illinois' defense, but I don't ever recall seeing such offensive futility. Let's just hope their memories can be short and they can get back to where they were this Saturday. We need to hold serve at home against Michigan and have some momentum going into next week's game vs. Wisky. They lost, give it up.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jan 24, 2007 -> 01:04 PM) Marquette, Nevada, and USC are the 3 most underrated teams in the land right now IMO. 3 very, very good squads, and if your looking for this years mid major cinderella, Nevada and Butler are lapping the field as the #1 and #2 candidate (in any order), with Air Force a DISTANT 3rd. I'd put Nevada over Butler though, as Butler plays nobody above 6'7, and Nevada does have decent depth in terms of bigs, led by Fazekas obviously. USC is only going to get more dangerous next year with that good class coming in.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jan 24, 2007 -> 06:49 PM) Yeah but knowing the media and their moron fans, they will hype this to be one of the best signings of the offseason..... It could be offensively, maybe not for that price. But 2 seasons ago Floyd had a pretty good year, I think he had 34 bombs. It all depends on whether he is healthy.

Cliff Floyd's contract with the Cubs is so flexible and creatively structured, it can turn into anything from a one-year, $3 million deal to a two-year, $17.5 million deal. There is just a one-year guarantee, at $3 million. But it contains a player option, a club option and a vesting option for 2008. If the option vests (at 425 plate appearances or 100 games started), Floyd has the right to opt out next winter and become a free agent. Otherwise, the club holds the option. Floyd can earn up to $7.5 million in 2007 if he's healthy enough to reach all of his plate-appearance, games-played and roster incentive levels. He can make up to $17.5 million over two years if he has 550 plate appearances in each of the next two years. He would make $15.5 million if he gets 500 plate appearances in each of the next two years.

QUOTE(WHITESOXRANDY @ Jan 24, 2007 -> 01:01 PM) What happens if Dye gets injured ? We have Erstad in LF, Anderson in CF and Sweeney in RF. That would have to be the worst outfield in baseball. well by your logic take away one player and see who has the worst OF. There are many that are worse. If you want to talk realistically with Dye, there are plenty worse than ours. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 24, 2007 -> 01:24 PM) Well as of right now the Nationals have a worse OF than the Sox and if Kearns gets hurt then they'll be MUCH worse. The Giants have a worse OF right now as well and if Bonds isn't re-signed or gets hurt then they'll be Much worse. I'm sure there's a few more but those 2 were the first to come to mind. The cubs have probably the worst defensive OF in the majors.

QUOTE(SuperSteve @ Jan 23, 2007 -> 11:12 PM) With this signing, I think it more than just to play. He is a veteran who could help Brin Anderson. Who would you rather have him learning from, Pods or Erstad? i still dont get how this is a signing to help BA. Its obviously help for our HUGE hole in LF considering PODs wont be back for 8+ weeks.

Thank you Illinois. Guess the ranking didnt last long for IU. Big Ten play is going to cause ALOT of these games this year. Watch out everyone.

I cant believe we brought OOTP in to the discussion. We signed him because there was nothing left for this cheap. Josh Fields should have a serious crack at the job, and maybe a platoon with Erstad.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 23, 2007 -> 09:28 PM) Actually that might be one of the reasons why they signed him. I would expect a Josh Fields/Erstad platoon.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 03:42 PM) Ah okay. That makes more sense. I would not pass on 2 first rounders for lovie. Id hire Rivera and bring in Mike Singletary as the DC. Ron Rivera isnt s*** without Lovie. Dont be fooled by the interest in Rivera, Lovie designed and runs that defense. Its his signature defense and he has been running it for many years. He taught Rivera how to run it his way, and the way he ran it in St Louis. You need to pay Lovie his money. Last years coach of the year, and this year in the superbowl? Why the hell would you want draft picks for that?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 23, 2007 -> 10:59 AM) Board shorts tend to always be in for guys (at least out West) so I'd imagine that is a solid choice as far as swimming trunks. In fact out west the trend is to wear them so low that at least 2 inches of crack are showing.

Honestly. I think this is a smoke screen. I personally think that the Baldelli talks are back on. The D-rays are asking for two young arms, and we have that.

Slap bracelets and anything day-glo Hypercolor is making a huge push.

Well I still DO have an authentic 83 fisk that is somewhat rare.

Why is it bad to have a jersey that other people have. I have an Urlacher and a Payton Jersey, my two fav players. Why is that a bad thing?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 22, 2007 -> 07:53 PM) So you were right in saying just us grumpy ignorant Bears fans were the only ones who saw Belichek (sp?) slight Manning after the game. I dont know how we could be grumpy at all. I mean maybe the hangover from drinking too much when our team actually won the chance to play in the superbowl, maybe not blowing a lead and folding on the last drive. but who knows?

Man they are still putting us a little high on the rankings. I would say top ten is accurate, but #5 is still a little high.

I cant have a dish in my condo building, therefor I cannot watch baseball. Bulls***