RockRaines

hahahah, how do we let Infante hit bombs???

s*** scotty needs to force the walk there. Foul everything

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 04:15 PM) We rank near the 12th out of 14 AL teams in BA and OBP. Our hitters are not patient and swing at bad pitches. If they worked counts more and hit pitches in the strikezone both of these numbers would be higher overall. I wouldnt mind it as much from the bottom of the order, but our middle couldnt hold weight on the rest of the first place teams.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 04:14 PM) I knew it. :rolly Imust have him on ignore, good choice by me turns out.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) TRU.. since you've been gone we have a new game thread format... everyone b****es, moans, and complains because we suck and will soon crash and burn and finish behind Detroit.. I take it hes back from suspension??

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 04:11 PM) While I agree that we need some offensive help and it is showing today, I'm not blaming our poor performance today entirely on our offense. Nate Robertson ain't bad. He's actually pretty good. Gotta give him some credit. Im talking overall throughout the season. Our numbers speaks for themselves. Typically the middle of the order has at least 1 300 hitter, some serious OPS, and tons of RBI's especially with our lead off guys. The fact is, this isnt happening in our lineup. Scotty should have more runs, and the middle guys should have more RBI's, OPS, and BA

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) I have been in the group saying that we just need to tinker a little.....now i am starting to change views....our offense needs something......this is just downright pathetic With respect to this game, which is not yet over, and is not a good enough sample size to determine our needs. The basic statistical achievements of the middle of the order has to show up as below average in everyone's eyes. I mean, if you compare our middle of the order vs. the rest of the league, our numbers are near the bottom. Am I wrong???

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) Ok bad relief, shields sucks, brazoban sucks, since sisco is on the royals he sucks as well, spurling has an era in the 2's but he sucks, wickman has an era in the 2's but he sucks, huston street sucks, etc, I don't feel like listing anymore guys, you guys want to give up already in this game, go right ahead. Who is giving up???? Anyone???

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) Gotta love these threads, everyone giving up on a team that has come back time and time again in late innings to win games. Oh yeah, they're 62 and 30 also but our team sucks, the lineup is horrendous, blah blah blah. Unreal, honestly. Who is giving up?? I didnt see anyone say that our season is over, and we should trade everyone right now. We are a good team, but look at our main power guys, they arent getting it done.

Check out the most crucial hitting part of our lineup .221 .251 .265 .262 I know this may cause an uproar about team baseball and all the other koolaid. But that doesnt look like a WS contender.

So I guess the middle of the order is now the black hole??

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) You clearly have not been following baseball if Robertson is crappy. I think Bonderman is the only decent arm on their staff. My opinion and career history.

its f***ing pouring at 200 s wacker

I loooooove getting one hit by crappy pitchers

Seriously, click on that link where you can see the highlights of his game, look at his stuff, the MPH, the break, the movement, the delivery. He is finding it again, and AJ will bring it back out of him even more. Get this guy.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 06:47 PM) glad you had a nice time, it truly is a nice place to catch a game. too bad your a bucs fan Bucs dominate

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) Yeah, Timo should get first crack at 1B f***in Ross Gload should get a crack

Jeckle, and everyone else who wants to http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/NASApp/...games/team/sf/r click on last nights game, and the link that says Schmidt strikes out 10. He hits 94 on the speed gun, and works 88 to 74 on breaking balls.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) Yeah... the fact that he was only mediocore before joining the same team with Bonds and Balco is just a coincidence right... After an already long major league career he suddenly just found all this talent... I will once again say the same thing I said from day one... I would love to get Jason Schmidt on this team if the price is right... BUT NO WAY IN HELL IS HE WORTH MORE THEN A MID LEVEL PROSPECT, MAYBE A HIGH PROSPECT!, Yeah, cause nobody ever just figures it out. Mid-level prospect for one of the dominant pitchers of the past few years???? Did you forget to turn your xbox off?

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) I just hate the thought of giving up anything of value for a steriod fueled has been.... Is contreras and some minor leaguers something of value?

Wow Jeckle, meet the ignore function.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 09:32 AM) rock, what else did levine say this morning? anything good? is it ever??? I think he is the most ignorant piece of s*** on the planet. But no, he didnt have anything good to say. Infact, it was spent talking about how Dusty Baker has the team winning now, because he is a genius to put Hairston and Walker at the top of the order. Maybe its because they are playing the reds and the pirates???

Jul 20 - Though the Marlins' proposed trade with the Orioles has cooled slightly, it is expected to get done, the Miami Herald reports. The deal now on the table would send A.J. Burnett and Mike Lowell to Baltimore in exchange for reliever Jorge Julio, outfielder Larry Bigbie, minor-league pitcher Hayden Penn and possibly reliever Steve Kline. The two clubs still are trying to iron out differences about how much each team would pay toward the remainder of Lowell's contract (about $21 million). The Marlins probably would have to absorb about $10 million of Lowell's contract for the Orioles to sign off on the deal. If the issue isn't resolved, it's possible Lowell might remain with the Marlins and suitors for Burnett could grow to include the Red Sox (offering a package headed by Bronson Arroyo), Blue Jays (Gustavo Chacin and bullpen arms) and White Sox (Jose Contreras and prospects). All about the Benjamins Jul 20 - According to the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel, the Orioles don't want to Mike Lowell as part of any A.J. Burnett trade unless one of two things happens: The Marlins can take back right-hander Sidney Ponson, who is due $10 million in 2006, the final season of a three-year, $22.5 million deal. Or they can pick up a significant portion of Lowell's remaining contract. Lowell is signed through 2007 and owed about $21 million, including this season. Should the entire deal with Baltimore collapse, the Marlins likely would turn their attention back toward the White Sox, who have been actively scouting Burnett and have expressed some mild interest in Lowell, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports. But the White Sox are wrestling with whether to mess with the chemistry of the best team in baseball.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 09:04 AM) Heard it from Bruce Levine on ESPN radio thursday afternoon. Funny,he said this morning it was for top level pitching prospect

We do not need question marks like this, under 500 pitchers, who will ruin us in the playoffs or the stretch run. We dont need this, we are too good for it, and this is the year.