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I honestly think they gave up too soon on RichRod. He had a ridiculously young defense and an offense just starting to get the system.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 11:24 PM) I'm so happy OSU won because now I'll have someone to sell me official Sugar Bowl merchandise Better than runner up merchandise. 2 straight BCS wins. Cam Heyward is the man.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) OSU was pretty awful tonight. They have no depth and not a lot of PG play at all. Sleepwalked through it. They still go 7-8 deep, thats their rotation pretty much.

CHAMPS. Suck it Mallet.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 02:08 PM) you took it how I meant it. I've had a lot of frustrating fights with our sales team promising things our system is not set up to do, and then putting multiple times the effort into a deal that wasn't even worth much revenue. Drives me nuts. But on the whole we have a great sales staff. Yeah, once you make that mistake once you hopefully never make it again. I take ALOT of time on any answers to questions and never get the excited "head nod" that some sales people will get when they smell a deal. I've done that before it it backfire BIG TIME. Part of the learning process.

So can I call him DickRod again? All the UM fans I know LOVED the DickRod hire mostly because they thought Lloyd's offense was ineffective vs OSU and OSU couldnt defend the "spread"

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) Apparently Rich Rodriguez has been fired Not a surprise. Hope that doesnt mean Harbaugh is in the fold.

QUOTE (Tex @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) I happened to spend Christmas with a retired Division 1 AD and former compliance officer, who also sat on a number of NCAA committees. Of course the suspensions and other issues came up. He mentioned his first NCAA rules book was think and could get lost, years later, when he retired, it was thick and worded much more exactly. Reading between the lines, it seemed to me that it went from a document that athletes could read and understand to a document intended for university lawyers. Overall I came away less jaded, he said the NCAA overall does a good job of equal enforcment. And to add, I agree with NSS with one addition. I would like to see the NCAA allow some personal use items for the athletes. Perhaps a clothing allowance, meal vouchers for off campus eateries, that sort of thing. Just as NSS mentioned in the jobs and college thread, a part of going to college is living on your own, partying, dating, etc. They should have a more authentic experience. Only the very top athletes would be involved in the sort of payoffs and cheating we're trying to stop. Make the rules fit the 95% of the athletes. The cross country runners, the tennis players, the fencing athletes, etc. Here is what MAC players at my school got, and how they got away with it: The University would fill up their "campus card" with money stipends etc for "food" and "off campus" dining. These players would then empty the account in the nearest bookstore on whatever was for sale. Then would then return these items for cash and having their spending money for normal stuff like ridiculous home entertainment systems. This is of course should be fairly illegal in the NCAA world, but the money trail points to them buying books and meals. Of course it was totally legal for the Orange Bowl to provide a free of charge cruise vacation for over 40 AD's and their wives, because of course, they arent students.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 11:24 AM) you've never made delivery promises? Delivery means alot of things, if you mean actually delivering a package or something, we dont sell stuff like that. We do very complex implementations that are usually well drawn out from a timeline perspective. And my only promise for any question would be to do the best I can, but also to be honest if it wont go the client's way. I may not always be at the same company, but I want my customers to know that they can always trust me as a person.

QUOTE (T R U @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 04:07 AM) aww i miss our sim league Was it really 6 years ago? As for Mark Prior being dominant, he had nothing on Can O' Corn

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 10:29 AM) and also not to make promises your company can't keep. Dont even make promises. I've learned to be very cautious and take alot of time with definite answers, especially when working for a software company.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) USC got hit incredibly hard for very little to be honest. They tore the whole program apart and didn't find anything more than the Bush scenario. They attacked a great source of revenue for the entire athletic program where they found violations in more than 1 sport. The knowledge of coaches and the refusal to comply with investigators when they were aware of more than $1 million dollars in benefits given to their star players isnt all that small. I've always felt they just wanted to hit their revenue stream since the track and bball programs probably benefited from the football program.

QUOTE (MuckFinnesota @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 10:09 AM) I wouldn't mind going to work up at a resort up north just so I could hide out and make some money while the economy gets better. My question to anyone on this board is, can anyone do sales? What makes someone good at it? What traits makes you successful in it? Do you actually like your job or do you like that you excel at something to bring in a return? Just a bit curious because as someone who doesn't believe he could do it, I would like to know a bit more about it before I close the door. Most people think of sales as some sort of slick, fast talked that can con you into anything they want you to do. This is simply not the case, especially in my industry. Most of my job is listening, understanding what people's business is and what makes them improve at their jobs and add to their company's bottom line. Its really almost like going to a constant dinner party with strangers. You have to be able to talk to people and be able to be an effective listener. The other part of the job is understanding what your "products or services" can add to a company or individual. You can then connect those two pieces of knowledge into educated recommendations and hopefully people trust you enough to partner with you. There are alot of other pieces of sales, and you add those tactical pieces along the way. In an entry level sales job you will learn about prospecting and closing small and frequent sales most likely. Then you may grown into a strategic position somewhere and then possibly management or an even larger scale sales gig. There are several reasons why I like my job: 1. No day is the same. I dont sit at a desk and pour over spreadsheets, I basically run my own business and divide up my time as I choose. 2. Performance-based pay. If I told you that the harder you work the more money you make, is that of interest to you? I'm in my 20's and make a very good base+commission package, and I know that if I put in the work day in and day out, I can make life-changing money, like seven figures. 3. Freedom. I can really be the face of my business. I can attack my territory or clients any way I choose and they learn to trust in the person and not the company I work for. I like the freedom to be myself. 4. Industry I am interested in. I like technology and so I feel like I just naturally learn about trends and industry issues because its of interest to me. It took awhile to find a company I felt that way about, but it happens. Of course there are many negatives. You are graded on your performance therefor if you begin to slack off you can and will be fired. Alot of people are job-hoppers in this business because they cant stay at one place more than 2 years. Sometimes its them and sometimes you just dont have a great territory or good accounts. Lack of structure doesnt fit everyone, some people want to go to work, do a job, and go home. I work long days and nights sometimes writing proposals or doing dinner meetings, but also have days where I play golf and thats it. It depends if you dont mind putting in the hours overall. I could go on and on. Sales isnt for everyone, but its a good place to start because in most jobs there is a sales aspect at some point and its not a bad idea to try it out. Plus sales jobs are almost always hiring.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 09:55 AM) I absolutely understand those are different situations. My issue is that the current USC players are the ones who are getting punished. Not Bush, not Carroll, not the main people who caused the problem in the first place. The OSU players were caught breaking the rules and are being punished, but not til after the bowl game, cause we wouldn't want to take that away from them (and the sponsors). How can you punish Bush after the fact? I have no idea. Fine him, make him pay for scholarships? I don't know if you can even do that. But the fact that all these players have the chance to play in bowl games taken away from them because of what others did 5 years ago sucks. Then players like Pryor & Co. are caught, and yeah they are suspended, but not til after the bowl game. The difference is that USC employees were part of the sanctions at USC, thus the school is punished. Thats why the incoming kids are being punished becuase they decided to stick with a schools that is being sanctioned. The bowl game thing was apparently some little loophole in the NCAA rules. I thought Tressel handled it nicely suspending them for the game if they were leaving. If they just missed the bowl game and not the first 5 games of next year, I could live with that, and i think most OSU fans would agree.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 09:17 AM) Is that tickets sold or actual attendance? I still see empty seats in Miami and assume people bought tickets to scalp. Yeah those arent actual fan numbers, but tickets sold.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 1, 2011 -> 05:24 PM) For the last time, your degree doesn't matter. Seconded, and you will have to take an entry level job at first, because people want to know you can actually do a job. I have a psych degree with focus on child development. Right out of school I took a job as a ski instructor and needed money so I could move. I took an entry level b**** job at CDW where I made a blistering 23k salary. I move up, changed jobs twice and now I am still here, selling technology and making alot more money at this age than I thought was possible. I think alot of people are reluctant to just take a job because you dont think you would be doing it long term. My point is that you never know. I thoughts sales and especially entry level sales was something that was terrible and that I wasnt interested in whatsoever, well 7 years later I am still in the industry and thriving. If I want to move over and start my own business I believe now I have the skills to be able to run my own shop since I have basically been doing it for years. Take the plunge and work your ass off and you will open up doors, you just need to step through that first one.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 4, 2011 -> 07:44 AM) Like the author mentions, I hate the fact that all these USC players who probably have never met Reggie Bush can't play in bowl games because of the money Bush took, but Pryor & Co. broke rules themselves and are allowed to play tonight. do you really think those are the same situations? USC was punished because coaches knew about the over $1 million dollars in benefits that Bush was given in his time at USC and then tried to hide and mislead the investigators during the process.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 11:20 PM) http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news...=dw-pryor010311 To say this story paints Ohio State in an unfavorable light would be a vast understatement. More like Pryor, the University isnt giving them anything out of compliance, and they would have self reported if they had caught something. Pryor is simply a moron. However, getting a loaner car while yours is in the shop backed up by documentation isnt even as bad as what I saw at a MAC school.

I really hope UM doesnt steal Harbaugh.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 10:10 PM) I think Luck is #1 and it isn't particularly close. He is a very good athlete, has good size, can make all the throws and he is very accurate. Maybe. I think that the Pac 10 was relatively weak defensively and I still have alot of faith in Mallet as an NFL QB.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 09:34 PM) Yeah, I can understand that. I'd keep the stuff if you have the room though...you never know when you might want/need to go back to it... Ill tell you what Tony did for me the most, he made me a stud at lunges ans squats. I see alot of people struggling with this during our training sessions, and I am barely hurting at all.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 08:09 PM) I think Stanford will rout. Luck is an absolute stud. Slam dunk #1 pick, imo. Ryan Mallet hasnt played yet. I still dont know if Luck is the #1 QB.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 06:16 PM) Well, before you do that, keep in mind, a new P90X is coming out soon. It will be called P90X:MC2 I think it's going to pull the best of the workouts from the One on One series and make it into the new P90X program. Maybe. I've found a gym that does very similar workouts and I love being able to get over there and do something different all the time. Plus its two blocks away. P90 was great for me for a few years and I really got started doing workouts that finally gave me results, but I think my days of working out in this condo are finished.

I'm probably going to sell my bands and weights at some point since I think P90X has run its course with me. I am really in love with my local gym that does very similar functional strength programs.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 3, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) Debate? Who is better than McCamey as an overall point guard? There may be better scorers (Battle for example), but IMO there's not much of a debate about who is the best at that position. You forgot about Darius Morris as someone who could be in the conversation though. Not many people have watched him since UM isnt great