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Posting on a board is for enjoyment and information. It is not a legal nor ethical right. Those countries have a few more issues than posting on a privately held website. We are going back to ad absurdum discussions again.

Pretty spot on.

He reported it wasn't. Just some recent soreness that he though was normal soreness. He was ready to make his next start but decided to tell the medical staff anyway.

Most prospects drafted don't make it to the MLB in 3 years so right now the answer is inconclusive. However some should make their MLB debut next year. That's when we can start drawing conclusions.

I thought I saw it in the 3rd quarter. I know the broadcast didn't comment on it until the 4th.

The talent acquired seems to be developing pretty well in the minors. I wouldn't make those conclusions until they make it or bust in the MLB.

As long as you pass the BAR exam the degrees are equal. What is the pass rate on the BAR for each school?

I have consistently disagreed with posters on this. Posters do have legitimate issues though. It does take more time to learn to pitch and the results aren't as consistent as throwing hard and striking people out because anytime a ball is in play it can result in a hit. However, in my opinion the risk/reward is worth it due to the higher injury rate we are seeing.

At this time of the year most pitchers are pitching through soreness and discomfort, especially those nearing thier previous high in innings pitched. Sale was always mad at the Sox staff for being too cautious.

The towel drills and football drills are awful for the mechanics.

I'm not sure that the innings increase really caused the elbow issue. Most pitchers can get up to 100 without issues from the start so I don't think the 75 innings earlier has much on effect. It's the 150-180-200 innings is where they need to be careful. They followed a good, typical plan with the progress of kopech. As I've said for years here, i think it's related to him throwing too close to his max velocity too often. This is why you see so many pitchers in today's game having UCL replacement so much more often than in the past. This generation is too focused on velocity and not learning how to pitch. It's much easier to go out there and throw as hard as you can for 5 innings than it is to dial it down and locate pitches for 7-8 innings. Even Chris sale. He is having his best year throwing as hard as he can and not "pitching to contact" and he is on the DL for the longest period of time in his career.

I don't think what happened to Kopech will change the way they handle Cease at all. They handled him the way they should have. The difference in the situations are that Cease did throw fewer innings this year than Kopech did last year so his innings limit may not dictate the call up in september.

this is true. He went 124 innings this year. I would guess they will push to around 170 next year. If his performance is mediocre, they may keep him down for the last part of the season. If he is pitching well, I would think they would bring him up. Personally, I don't have as much confidence in him maintaining his performance in AAA so i could see them keeping him down.

Oh, so the actual prospects were determined by you after the fact. Basabe was hitting 258 in A ball when they acquired him. By your philosophy of batting average and contact, he shoudn't have been considered an actual prospect, so don't count him on your list. Hind sight is 20/20.

They will do it again because it's the path that makes the most sense. You build upon the number of innings the pitcher pitched the previous year.

Well I guess if you want to just count the players you want to count and ignore all of the players they actually acquired, you can use any number you care to.

I think cease will be up at the end of next season. Similar to the Kopech path.

In the three big trades they got 1. Sale: 2 pitchers, 2 hitters, 2. Eaton 3 pitchers, 3. Quintana: 1 pitcher 3 hitters Total: 6 pitchers, 5 hitters. That's the definition of a good mix.

Or the fact that they acquired so many could be what makes it. They may lose some but some will make it through. If they only traded for a few, they would have lost more and couldn't afford to but them like the Cubs needed to.

According to the article in the Tribune, he didn't feel much or say anything to the team until Thursday. He though it was something he could pitch through and planned on making his next start, when the team sent him to the doc to be cautious. It's entirely possible that due to his strength he didn't feel anything until the tear became so large. Most people feel something significant prior to it becoming "a rather large tear" as Hahn put it.

No doubt.

I think watching the young bullpen makes it interesting. It looks to be a strength next year.

I disagree that the rest of the stats don't matter. He isn't hitting poorly, he just isn't hitting often. A player who can get on base 36% of the time and slugs 400 is useful. Is he a great hitter? No, but not all hitters are going to be great.

It's the age of advanced stats, even the players dont worry about batting average anymore. It's not a great sign but I wouldn't consider a redflag. He is far from a non-prospects at this point. The average batting average last year was .255.

If you want to base performance strictly on batting average that is your prerogative.