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So making the playoffs is a failure and qualifies for the worst owners in sports. Is winning the world series the only success? Then 90% of the owners in the league qualify as the worst owners in sports.

Yes, base all if your views in a single season. Go back 2 years and they made the playoffs 2 years in a row. They must be one if the best run teams in the league. Everyone knew this was going to be an awful season with the new FO taking over and the core of the team being what it was. If you expected different, I don't know what to tell you.

For some anyway.

I like the Cease trade. Thorpe has looked awfully good for a rookie on an awful team. Iriarte looks good. The reliever you mentioned looks good as well. As I mentioned elsewhere. He was stuck with having to have a core of Eloy, Moncada, Benintendi and Robert which sunk the last regime. I'm willing to see how he does once he dumps them and gets to build a team. I also like many of his FO hires.

I think he's OK. Hit some, missed some

I prefer to give the new guys chance before I draw the conclusion. I'm a fan I always want them to do well and so far he's done ok with trades.

At least you have an open mind to wait and see what happens.

You would think so.

If they took all that money to sign one really good player, everyone would complain about the poor quality of the rest of the roster around that one really good player.

I think we all knew that going into the season. What we didn't know was that Crochet was going to be a starter of this quality.

I agree. But he us right to be concerned about his health pitching in to October. So I don't blame him for wanting some insurance. It's worth a shot to see if a team will bite on it.

No one in history has pitched this far over his previous innings while coming off UCL reconstruction either.

Not really. Now most of it will be insurance.

Now most of it will be covered by insurance.

Depends on what his agents say.

I think you have bush, adams, quero, eder and a few pen guys who will all gets looks probably Montgomery and Ramos as well.

With moncada and Eloy off the books as well as anyone else they trade, he should have e a fair amount to work with. 2025 will be the year to get the milb players acclimated to the MLB.

Once Eloy and moncada are off the roster we'll be better able to see how Getz operates. Giving the long term early contracts to Eloy, moncada and Robert was the downfall of Hahn rebuild. It seems like a good idea at that time to lock up young talent. However with their injuries it's really hamstrung this team.

He doesn't. That doesn't mean with his current performance he is getting paid well compared to other pitchers. It's just the nature of the game.

Compared to his peers he is.

Just like Hahn? He was another Michigan guy.

Those 2 promising pitchers went down really young with significant injuries. Burns had the hip issues that ended his career. Dotson had TOS and needed a surgery to decompress and removed his pec minor and was never the same. This really showed the volatility of pitchers at a time when they were handing out pretty pretty significant contracts to guys like Bannister and Fisk.

Actually I think it started with Britt burns and Richard dotson.

To be fair, the Sox are giving hom this opportunity that I don't know how many organizations would have. I'm still surprised they are still doing it.

How dare they tell Crochet to say that we won't pitch in the post season without a contract extension. They was a bad move by Getz.