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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 01:16 PM) Oh crap, didn't realize they had less than 4 months to find a new station. Yikes. Less than 2 months if you want to hear Spring Training games.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 12:27 PM) So basically the owners are pocketing more money and players are earning less and less. That has all the making of another labor stoppage. Players salaries have increased at a dramatic rate. The players are not earning less.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 03:12 PM) It's not just that - the lack of a hard salary cap is hurting now too. You have 2 behemoth teams, the Yankees and the Dodgers, that are well built for about $200 million, and one of them is going to add Bryce Harper next offseason to a team that already was really good. You then have a handful of other well built teams, but basically you have right now 4 behemoth teams, 2 of them with huge money spent. If your team wins 88 games next year, do you really think you can outgun the Dodgers in a 7 game series and the Indians in the next one? I don't. Teams know that if they are stuck in the middle, that isn't good enough right now. They need to be exceptional, and they can't get there with the talent available. The issue is that the Union really doesn't care about teams being competitive only that salaries continue to increase. I agrre that a hard salary cap and floor would benefit them more in the long term.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 07:56 AM) Yeah, I think pretty much all the clear channels come in really well. Honestly WTMJ almost definitely comes in better than WMVP. I remember that.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Jan 19, 2018 -> 07:49 AM) The 1000 signal is awful out west of the city. It was bad enough growing up in Oswego, and I think it's probably even worse now that I'm in rural Kane County. Yes. When i lived in Sugar Grove. I had difficulty getting the signal especially on bad weather days.

What a great idea to raise the 401k match to get people to save more for their retirement instead of a cash bonus. I'm glad some companies are actually thinking ahead for the benefit of their employees. Not sure how to post a link so I just copied the URL http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/col...0111-story.html

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 08:29 PM) Limited playing time? From April 6th to June 15th he got 200 plate appearances. He was practically an everyday starter before he got hurt. During that period he put an .804 OPS & wRC+ of 115. It honestly doesn’t seem like you followed him very closely last year. And again, you continue to ignore Leury’s AAA stats in 2015 & 2016, which were better than Tilson’s AAA numbers. Furthermore, Leury has much better physical tools than Tilson and offers much more versatility. If Leury can come anywhere close to the numbers I mentioned above, he could be a poor man’s Ben Zobrist and that would be incredibly valuable. There are legit reasons to believe Leury is finally tapping into his potential and he deserves everyday at-bats to see what he really is. I don’t need to give 600 at-bats to Charlie Tilson to know he won’t play a significant role on our next playoff team or become a valuable trade chip. Your comment about his good 200 at bats is exactly the limited time I was talking about. He will have good stats in limited time but over the course of a season the stats will even out and show exactly what he is. You described him perfectly with your comment on versatility. This is why he will be around as a versatile utility guy, so why not develop him in that role. I don't think he is finally tapping into his potential. I think he will be exactly what he is. I feel much better that you don't need to give 600 at bats to Tilson. He probably won't be any better than Garcia and probably won't be around on your next playoff team. However, Garcia probably won't be anything more than a utility guy on those teams either. So why not see what the Sox have in Tilson because neither are going to be much, it's just that Garcia can play the infield and OF so they'll keep him around. Edit: Actually, I can believe I've spent this much time on this subject. Neither player will be of any significance on a good team. If either are prominent players in 2019, the Sox will be awful. I'm going to leave it at neither are very good, neither will be most than extra pieces and neither are relevant to the success of the Sox future.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 06:41 PM) The only “weakness” Leury exhibited up until last year was being overwhelmed by MLB pitching. There’s never been anything “weak” about his defensive game or his speed. And last year he did not even remotely look like he was being overwhelmed at the plate. Quite the contrary, actually. He was quite effective getting on base while displaying some surprising power until he got hurt. So not quite sure what you think will be “exposed” with continued playing time for him this coming season. Meanwhile, putting Tilson in some proper context: he was a #12 ranked prospect in the game’s 18th ranked farm system at the time of acquisition a year and a half ago, and he hasn’t played a full game since that acquisition. Hard to see the promise in his return given how much development time the poor guy has missed. I would call a .316 OBP effective. I think he will be exposed as many utility players are. He does well with limited time and proper playing situations and will probably revert closer to his career OBP of .270 than his performance last year. Don't get me wrong, i think he has a place it's just not as a dependable starter. This may be the case with Tilson. But for everything you've said his MiLB stats are better than Garcia's and the fact still remains that they have no idea what he will do in the MLB. I just think that ina developing year why see more of Garcia when they can see what they have in Tilson. Garcia will be around as a utility guy at worst, why not see how others do, they aren't trying to win this year. Play Tilson in CF and let Garcia develop in his role as the utility guy because that's where he will be in a couple of years when the Sox are competing.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 06:06 PM) That's why I think he can. he played 6 years in the minors with decent stats (bad, really). Suddenly, in 2016 he sports a .793 OPS in Charlotte - he had never been close to that before at any level of the minor leagues. Then last year, he does a decent job in the majors, taking another step up. I think there's a decent chance he takes a third step up this year. It's possible. However, I think he is more likely a guy who will have his weaknesses exposed with extended playing time.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 03:39 PM) Tilson's upside is only a decent player IMO, so why displace a guy that has already proven to be that? If Leury can show his offensive numbers pre-injury weren't a fluke, he can be a perfect transition piece to Robert or a valuable trade chip given his defensive versatility. I really think Tilson ends up being nothing more than a 4th OF and not necessarily a great one since he doesn't really have the arm for RF. This is your opinion as you noted. However, no one knows so they need to find out in a development year. Garcia's entire history for the past 13 years (minors included) is decent to below average wherever he has been. Garcia has a spot on a good team as a utility guy. The Sox know this. No one has any idea what Tilson will be. It's the same discussion with all of the young players this year. This is the year to find out if they have a place in the MLB and can contribute to a good team or are they just fillers.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 03:10 PM) I have no issue expecting to play all of them (hence why I want to keep some of these spots open). But I should ask - why do we know that Leury can't go from "Decent" to "Good" with continued playing time? He could. However, a guy who spent 9 years in the minors with decent stats and who has been decent to below average probably won't advance to good. He can still play but be in the role of which he is most suited, utility guy who can play multiple positions. tilson is the unknown. Play him the majority of the time to see what he can be. he might suck or be an all-star.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 02:59 PM) What flaw did Leury show last year other than possibly health? And if that’s his flaw, that same thing is Tilson’s kryptonite. I can’t see any rationale argument for Tilson over Leury. That he's decent. He's nothing special. They don't know about Tilson. As long as they are "wasting" another season on development, they may as well see what they have in Tilson. They know what they have in Garcia, a decent player. That is the rationale for Tilson. If they were trying to compete this year, Garcia would be the safer option. But it's not so they should see what Tilson has.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 11:47 AM) I do not get the Tilson love on this board. He needs to prove himself again after missing like a season and a half before I even consider handing him a starting job. The OF to begin 2018 should be Delmonico in LF, Leury in CF, & Avi in RF. Tilson should have to compete against Engel & Cordell for a reserve role. If he wins that and does well as a reserve, we can djnd ways to get him more at-bats. I just don’t see much upside with Tilson. The Sox thought enough of him to bring him to the MLB after the trade. He has done all he can in the MiLB. He just needs to prove he's healthy. All of the other CF candidates have shown serious flaws in their game. Why not give him the shot? He is the unknown and they should use the season to see if he has anything.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 12:34 PM) Someone somewhere linked a nice Yahoo article about this. 30% of the league is not even trying to win. The Cubs being so well known nationally have caused a significant issue in baseball: fans willing to endure bad teams and losing. Hopefully, the teams don't take advantage of it and lose without really trying to rebuild.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 11:21 AM) I enjoyed hearing Cooper lay waste to this "good in the clubhouse" nonsense. What do you expect from a guy from NYC? He is always crabby and hates everyone.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 17, 2018 -> 05:06 PM) one of the absolute dumbest tropes in baseball scouting. There isn't a single scout in any other pro sport that thinks guys will slow down as they add muscle. That's just something out of like 1960 thinking. As if they are just training biceps! Come on. Sure there is when you talk about kids this age. In college many WR become TE and TE move to OL, LB to DL and so on. This doesn't happened once they've matured but from the age of 16-21 it's a constant change.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 16, 2018 -> 11:31 AM) Or Aroldis Chapman. The weird thing about the Sammy stuff is that Ricketts seems to be the only one who gives a s***. And he didn't even own the team then. The fans want him back, nobody feels betrayed by any steroid use. Say what you want, but those were fun times while it was going on and those guys were just clobbering baseballs. There's nothing for him to apologize for, just a weird grudge Ricketts is holding onto. I would disagree with this. There are people including, obviously, many who vote for the HOF. I also disagree they were fun times, but I also prefer a 2-1 pitchers duel over a 10-9 awful pitched game.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 04:28 PM) AJ Boye held Antonio Brown for 40 yards. Brown still caught the ball. Oh yeah. They should have called something there.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 02:02 PM) There was a call in the Steelers game where Juju Smith Schuster pushed a Jacksonville DB into Bell out of bounds. The dude got hit with a personal foul penalty. That's a call that should be immediately changed by the people in New York. Not reviewed, just changed on the spot via their headsets. How about the one where after Ben threw the ball the D-lineman picked him up and threw him down? That was a game where they truly let them do whatever they wanted.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 10:38 AM) Oh and someone should add this - Bleeping Bleep **** those refs were 100% intent on calling everything they could as a PI on the Saints. My word. As opposed to the Jax/Steelers game where they were allowing them to do anything they wanted on every play.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jan 14, 2018 -> 03:20 PM) I don't trust him against a Belichick led Pats team at all despite the Jags D. Brady might be walking to another Super Bowl. No doubt. They Patriots will unfortunately roll over them.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 03:42 PM) Neither Shields nor Gonzalez. Instead sign Jake Arrieta and have him be the White Sox Opening Day pitcher. Ewww. He will not be worth the contract. 25 mil for a #3 starter?

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 12, 2018 -> 07:19 AM) I wish I knew more about Palmeiro and his steroid usage. When did he start using and for how long? The guy could hit. Take a look at his season stats. It could be that he learned to turn his doubles power into home runs in his mid to late 20's. However, I would lean toward the PEDs.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 02:08 PM) Last year I saw a guy buy 4 PBRs and it was $35. He gave the vendor $40 and told him to keep it. I was in Jewel later that day, a 30 pack of PBRs $13.99. Supposedly Chicago sports teams get their beer cheaper than any other business. The amount of profit is absolutely crazy. There's his first problem. Ewww.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 11, 2018 -> 11:28 AM) Shields could be dropped to the pen also and no one would be mad. Heck, with a rotation that young I wouldn't mind going to a 6 man rotation for a few weeks either if the roster could take it. I wouldn't. They need the innings for health and learning.