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QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) Maybe I am nitpicking, but Danish has never been mid 90's as a pro. He was advertised as being able to get it up to 95 when he was drafted and he was barely hitting 90 in his first short season. This season he was hitting 92-93 at one point, but it was during the period he was getting smacked in W-S. Once his velocity fell and sat at 87-91, he was dominant again. Sacrificing velocity for movement is taught throughout the sox system.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 02:25 PM) I think the distinction is that some have justified AP's actions based on it being accepted in some areas of the country, whereas others have merely listed that as a mitigating factor, more or less. That's my point. These forms of punishment are still readily carried out and accepted as the norm. "Kid grabs something, he wasn't supposed to, put his hands in hot water and he''l learn."

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 02:53 PM) Anheiser Busch released a statement Just the beer company trying to get publicity.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 12:09 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown...-141959347.html The cultural aspect is correct though. My brother is a pt and at in mississippi. He routinely tells me about children with burns on their hands because the parents punish them by putting the kids hands in hot water. The parents make it too hot and the kids get burns. It's all too common. I'll wager that if Peterson hadn't sent the kid home to Minnesota until the wounds healed, this never would have come up.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 11:40 AM) Mark Prior didn't have perfect mechanics. In fact, he had the opposite of that. http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Pitchi...gMechanics.html He had a easy-to-repeat motion, which is why I think people said he had good mechanics. However, he had an awful timing issue that put a lot of stress on his arm. He had perfect mechanics if you go by the House/Nolan Ryan/Rothschild version of pitching mechanics. There are just others who disagree with their version. I happen to be one of them. Edit: I also don't think he was on PEDs.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 09:23 PM) I think that if Felix drops his ERA below 2.20 and Sale stays under 2.00, we have a pretty legitimate chance. I think ERA is one of the main stats that the voters look at, as even the ESPN guys are drifting away from W/L. Sale leads in FIP, too, so that helps. Looking back, it's just a shame that missing a month likely cost him the Cy Young because Robin decided to leave him out there for 127 pitches. It's always the manager/coach's fault. Never the player's

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 11:22 AM) He just means that your lower half is what drives you, but the comment really doesn't make any sense IMO. It's like throwing a punch or a kick or something, you use your mass and built-up momentum to focus the force on one specific point which you then use to release that energy onto your target. If you're throwing a punch or a pitch you're not throwing with your arms. That's really the main reason behind all the scouts loving monster 6'4"+ pitchers with thick and sturdy looking lower halves who have clean mechanics. They're the types that you'd think have a better chance at lasting longer, throwing multiple seasons in the Majors at 200IP, etc. They're also IMO the reason why Tyler Danish isn't considered a top-100 prospect right now, and probably the reason most teams would rather pick up Montas in a trade even though Danish is more polished and probably the better bet to get MLB hitters out *at all* at any point. Anyway you need your lower half for 9 innings if you are going to pitch for 9 innings. If you're just out there overexerting yourself all the time (beyond what would be expected of anyone trying to build stamina) then you're just going to get hurt. I think I know what Stone is getting at here in that if you can go strong overall for 6 then you're probably set up well enough to "pitch" the last three innings by using speed variance and location more than power and "stuff" but still, that seems like some terrible advice to give anyone, especially a pitcher. I've never heard Stoney say that but that sounds like a good way to get someone doing something wrong mechanically late in the game when he's out of gas, and that's probably one of the best ways for a pitcher to hurt himself. Most researchers believe that most of the pitch velocity comes from the legs and trunk. It makes sense mechanically as they are the bigger muscles and are the driving force for all activities really. When your legs get tired you do throw more with your arm and this is where issues develop. This is why guys like Peavy and Rodon scare me for arm injuries. If you study a guy like Nolan Ryan look at his trunk and lower extremities and how big and strong they were. This is the idea behind the "big strong" pitcher. If you look at the injuries that finally got to Ryan they were back and hips. In aperfect world the pitchers would throw with the legs and trunk (this is where the proper follow through is important) and just use the arm to put the proper spin on the ball.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 14, 2014 -> 06:07 PM) I'm not sure. I didn't notice until you mentioned it. I was kind of preoccupied with the movement of his pitches. I honestly was not expecting that good of movement. Interesting idea is that he could close his own games. I really like that his father forced him to throw left handed. Baseball aside I think its good to teach kids how to use both hands, arms and legs, not just one or the other. That's how Billy Wagner learned to pitch lefty. He is a righty but fractured his right arm before a baseball season so he learned to throw lefty and was better at it so he stuck with it.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 01:27 PM) i hope it is Louis-Jean. That guy lasted until the final cuts, and Frey was bounced pretty quickly. ALJ looks like a ball hawk Kelvin Hayden is an option as well.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) Just cause Jay lifted his leg doesn't necessarily mean he was calling for the ball. I'm not saying he wasn't either but there's plenty of instances where the first leg lift isn't necessarily the call. True. But if you were watching the game that is the signal there were using when they couldn't hear because the crowd was so loud. Cutler would lift his leg and Ola would watch. Once he did this Ola would tap DLP (i like that initial better) to tell him to snap the ball. It worked all game except the one instance, which is pretty good considering the noise on the field.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 15, 2014 -> 10:32 AM) Exactly. Plus that putrid start had one drive where we started inside our 10...another drive where our back-up center snapped it 20 yards back and put us in an impossible predicament, a drive where Alshon / Marshall dropped potential first down catches, and a drive where Cutler threw a beautiful ball to Bennett, who juggled it and made the catch only to have it overturned on a lousy play. The key was on a couple plays where things went south, Jay threw the ball away. Don't make the turnovers and you can turn the field position battle a bit. Of course with our special teams unit, it is almost impossible. They are so bad. I almost think they should just punt it out of bounds each time. Prevent a return and a penalty...sure you lose a bit on yardage but at least you don't have the downside of a long td run and constant penalties. Uggh. How did DeCamilis keep his job. Seriously. Defense played admirably and did a nice job against the type of offense they historically struggle against. Briggs played well, Allen showed up, Willie Young is a beast. That said, if they made tackles, game ends a lot sooner. Coverage still was soft at times and I hope Conte / Tillman etc can somehow return. Presume Tillman's career is over but hoping it isn't. That wasn't the center's fault. Cutler lifted his leg to call for the ball, Ola tapped De La Punte as he was supposed to. Cutler looked away after he called for it. It was low but Cutler can't look away after he calls for the snap.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 10:17 AM) Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 1h Tooth lodged in cheek. Hole in lip so big doc's index finger fit in it. And get this: Giancarlo Stanton still wants to return this season. Craig Minervini ‏@CraigMinervini 7h #Giancarlo in good spirits, saying he was uplifted by his mates. Dental work on 3 teeth in Miami. Fractures will heal, no surgery expected There is no way he should be allowed to return this season unless they go deep in the playoffs. Fractures take 4-6 weeks to heal. Facial fractures can be very small bones and need at least this time. He is putting alot at risk returning earlier than that.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 09:21 PM) Even if Martinez was using steroids, a ton of hitters were also using them, so you'd have to say it was close to a level playing field...even in that context. Any time a pitcher breaks down due to injuries, there will be questions...then again, we've had more elbow injuries than at any point in the history of the game and most of these TJ's are not being connected to steroid usage/abuse to my knowledge. On a hypothetical basis, the PEDs prevent injuries to pitchers, especially TJ. The UCL gets stretched or sprained when the flexor muscles no longer give enough support. The PEDs will allow this group of muscles a longer period of support thus decreasing the opportunity for injury. Pitchers used the PEDs not so much for increased power but for increased endurance and shorter recovery time. Maybe this is aprt of the reason for the increase in TJ surgeries? I doubt it is a significant factor as I still think it's more the over throwing. However it's something to consider.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 06:04 PM) Pedro in 2000 had an ERA of 1.74. That was an ERA plus of (get ready...) 291. Sale's ERA+ is "only" 190. Pedro Martinez is possibly the greatest pitcher of all time. You check his B-Ref page and it blows you away. Dude was dominating during the steroid era, just filthy. That is probably the reason he was dominate.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 07:38 PM) Bassitt's looking good so far. Nice late movement on his pitches. I really like him. I saw him pitch live last week. He is going to be a good 4-5 pitcher. Maybe 3 at the ceiling. He's smart, knows how to pitch and usually gets strike 1. He's not going to be an All-Start but he is going to be a useful pitcher in the rotation.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 10, 2014 -> 01:40 PM) Yeah, his response was logical - if I tackle him they win anyway, so I went for the ball. It's hilarious to me that people can ignore how awful guys like Tillman played but place the blame on Conte. Exactly, he was thinking about the big picture, about how to win the game. Not just "make the tackle."

QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) I actually prefer second half Abreu. He's been hitting like Miguel Cabrera. Sure I'd like to see a few more homers, but you can't complain about a .438 OBP and .534 SLG. There is some room for complaints as the OBP and SLG increase the chances for runs, the HR actually are runs. I agree however that the better hitter with fewer HRs is more productive for the team, once the players around him improve.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:46 PM) It depends on if you have a contract and what your contract says but most people are at-will employees and can be fired with or without cause by their employer. Ok. I see all the responses. I guess, I better start being nicer at work.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:31 PM) We can't. But your employer can fire you for a whole myriad of reasons, this being one of them. The NFL has a conduct policy, and very clearly stipulates a whole list of reasons you can be fired from your job (aka have your contract terminated). It also has the right to bar you from working from them again, just like any other company does. Does the employer have the right to fire you without justification? I'm truly asking as I don't know. Right now Rice can say he had no legal action taken against him. Why should the business take action when the courts didn't Again don't take this as I agree. I think he should have been prosecuted. But since he wasn't, I don't know the justification.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:25 PM) This falls outside of the CBA. I don't think so. I think it's part of the " ethics/personal conduct" part of the agreement and contracts. Just about everything that has to do with employment and punishment goes through the CBA. edit: I see the information from above. I always thought that was in the CBA. I guess it's just " we can change it if we need to"

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:23 PM) No workplace should want to be associated with this sort of behavior. I have no problem with someone losing their job for it. In any business, the employees of a company are a large part of their image. Getting rid of people who don't fit that image does not bother me in the least. I'm not saying people should accept this type of crime, but I'm just not sure anyone would lose their job when there was no prosecution. I'm not a lawyer but would anyone really lose their job when there was no conviction in court? I personally think he should go to jail for a long time regardless. Let her enjoy his money without him having the opportunity to touch her. But we can't just do whatever we want to someone outside of the court system.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 04:08 PM) At some point, to set up harsher penalties someone has to be the first one to get them, so all of the historical BS of how they looked the other direction strawman will be there. If it wasn't Ray Rice, it was the next guy, or the guy after him. f*** the NFL for looking the other way for this for so long, and all of the other felony's they pretend don't happen. Hopefully some day they join the rest of the world in not wanting to associate with the people who beat their spouses, or any of the other felony's. But this isn't a felony because there was no conviction. In all other cases they wait for the legal system to take it's course, just like the guy in San Francisco. Why is it up to the NFL to provide justice?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) As long as we focus all of the lemmings on Ray Rice no one will look at the other actual bad things that are going on, or the fact that no one in the NFL actually cares, they just care about their image, and Ray Rice got caught on tape. Of course the only thing they care about is their image. It's all about making money. The NFL isn't here to "police" society or their players. This is the job of the legal system. They wanted Rice to stay in the league because it makes the Ravens a better team and the league will make more money. He wasn't convicted of anything so the punishment was light. It's only with the outcry from the public, which may hurt their business, that they decided to get tougher.

QUOTE (TRU @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 03:28 PM) See I agree with this. What I don't agree with is no outrage over Josh Brent. Literally not a word about it. Because the crime wasn't malicious in intent and he was prosecuted and he served his time. If rice is prosecuted and serves his time determined by the legal system he should get a second chance. The problem is the way he got out of being prosecuted and wasn't being punished.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Sep 8, 2014 -> 11:43 AM) Not saying you're wrong, but it's so frustrating that the idea of shrinking the schedule is such a non-starter. You're right, the profit-driven owner would never even consider it. Fact is though, it would be so much better for the sport in numerous, far-reaching ways. Profit driven owners or greedy players/agents for demanding more?