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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) He can't. The Sox know this. I've thought he has looked pretty good defensively at a few positions. I think you think they know this. I'm not too sure that they think it yet. We'll know this off season.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 03:51 PM) Why do we have to have him save a spot, again? This is a rebuilding/retooling year. The Sox want to see if he could handle it for next year or further in the future. That's really what they are doing with most everyone on the team.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 03:46 PM) How does Leury Garcia have a spot on a major league roster? Versatile defensive player. Saves a spot when you don't need a backup INF and OF.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) The difference is that this year, he did get one month off... True. Let's see how is numbers look this August and Sept. Maybe he just loses interest.......

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 03:16 PM) Sale's career as a starter in August and September: 24 starts 157.1 innings 3.83 ERA Have to wonder if his build limits his endurance and his effectiveness later in the season.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) Sandy alomar jr can do alot better job then robin. That remains to be seen as he has never done it before. We should know soon enough as he should get a MLB job in the next couple of years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) If you think Robin is quiet and doesn't get upset or doesn't show "fire", you will hate dave Martinez and Sandy alomar. Yes. Alomar makes Ventura look like Guillen, without the accent.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 09:54 AM) No doubt (I doubt anyone disagrees there) but the hype, comparisons, etc. Cubs fans, media, etc. give these two is pretty ridiculous. I love Bryant, I love Soler. Obviously I'm not a scout, but even I don't see some of the hofty crap with those two (and with Bryant I could at least understand since he is awesome ) I did disagree. I think Almora has a better chance of being a long term MLB player than Baez. I think Baez has a better chance to be an All-Star. But I think he also has a better chance to bust.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 6, 2014 -> 08:41 AM) Next, he will take over as the starting shortstop. Soon, he will be managing and GMing the team. Then he will own the White Sox, and he will eventually be elected to be the mayor of Chicago. Shortly thereafter, he will be elected as a Congressional Representative to Congress. Ultimately, he will be the 47th President of the United States of America. On his first night in office, his Vice President (the leading candidate is Scott Podsednik) will ask him "Gee, Adam, what do you want to do tonight?" He'll reply "The same thing we do every night, Scott - try to take over the world." The day Jermaine Dye came in at shortstop was hilarious.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 09:43 PM) How many straight relievers have failed to get at least 3 outs without giving up a run? This is amazing Hopefully they are all getting outof theirsystem in one game. I know, wishful thinking.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) That's what I was hoping, but he is already at 45 starts since the injury and over 275 innings. At some point you need to see some results to have any confidence in a rebound. True. But with him hitting his innings pitched from last year, he is probably struggling through a arm building phase. Most pitchers have this issue when they are hitting that inning threshold. He only pitched 53 and 140 innings the last 2 years, I believe.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 09:12 PM) The funny thing is he was hitting 91/92 tonight. Danks is hitting that, most innings pitched in the last 3 years area. The sox need to hope that its just building his arm up and he will continue to improve. Otherwise it's going to be along 2 years.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 08:27 PM) Yes he was but the rush to get the deal done always bothered me. I never even pre injury thought he was worth the contract. Usually one of the better LH pitchers in the game is worth the contract. Unfortunately he got injured. This is the case for signing no pitcher to a 4 year deal. Even young ones with no history of injury.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 08:29 PM) I think the over under is 50%. 2 years, 75%. here is the SSS must read article imo: http://www.southsidesox.com/2013/3/20/4125...urgery-pitchers I know the history. I've rehabbed people with it. He will be pitching next August barring injury. August 2016 is a possibility.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 08:23 PM) Good for him he created this mess. He was healthy and one of the better young LH pitchers when he signed the deal.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 08:17 PM) regardless, larger point is nobody that ever had the same surgery came back to amount to much. SSS had a good breakdown, it's bleak. He'll probably be out of MLB in 12 months. It's possible, but I don't think he will not be out of baseball in 12 months.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 07:30 PM) Bigger problem imo It's a loose shoulder joint. Just can't throw the ball like he used to. It shouldn't be loose anymore. The surgeon tightened it. Usually if anything it's too tight and that's why he doesn't have the fastball anymore.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) White Sox players have been pretty unharmed in all of this stuff over the years The only one that I know of that was even rumored heavily was Ordonez. Keep in mind they were rumors no proof. Besides Canseco of course.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 10:47 AM) Show me where he has done something like this in a game? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...Ma00/penalties/ Maybe he hasnt gone to that extreme yet but the coaches are obviously worried enough about it to punish him and they know more about the situation than we do. They punished him not Fuller so they are worried about something with him.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 10:41 AM) I dont think he retaliates in a game situation, since its an actual game and not practice. A vet knows the difference, a rookie may not. Trestman is definitely one of the more professional type coaches that doesnt like the extra s***, there are some coaches in the NFL that would encourage it. I'm not so sure about him not doing it in a game. Trestman obviously, saw enough in it or in repeated behavior to punish Bennett. I don't think Trestman does things on a knee jerk reaction basis. i think the the fights and the intensity is a good thing on a limited basis. The coaches which encourage it too much are the more undisciplined teams. With the way the NFL is calling penalties now, that type of play really doesn't work.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Aug 4, 2014 -> 01:51 PM) The Cubs should be very, very good within a few years, or sooner. It will make a Dodgers fan out of many here, perhaps. Someone will need to pitch.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 5, 2014 -> 10:28 AM) I think there is zero correlation between camp fights and penalties in the regular season. Zero. Bennett overreacted by slamming Fuller which was stupid, but thats about all I saw. Fuller would have been flagged on the play first. I would disagree. There is a correlation between how a coach runs a team and how the team plays. If the coach just lets things happen and doesn't keep his team disciplined, I think that type of play carries over. It's not just the fights though. It's how disciplined they are during the entire practice. I think Trestman finally had enough of the non-football crap and sent a message. Fuller made a play that would have been a penalty. However, if the same situation happened in a game the offense would not get the benefit of the penalty because Bennett gets one as well for the level of retaliation.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 4, 2014 -> 08:43 AM) I can feel it when i do rotational movement of my shoulder, when i turn my head. The closest thing I can compare it to is the feeling you have when you want to crack your knuckle or need your back cracked, accompanied by a fatigued soreness And since I play softball, it is my non-throwing shoulder If it's right at the base of your neck, it's a sternoclavicular (SC) disc impingement. The clavicle meets your breastbone and there is a biconcave disc that is in between the two. It's a complicated movement and can cause the "sticking" sensation where it feels it needs to pop. The reason it hurts when you turn your head is that the sternocleidomastoid muscle is attached there. The difficulty is that it's a highly mobile disc that needs to move for the SC to function properly. First try pushing straight back on the close end of the clavicle. See if there is a click or pop. this can sometimes "re-align" the disc. If it doesn't make a noise but relieves the "pain", you should do this a few times a day for about 10 reps. If it doesn't change, check the position of the clavicle to the other side. See if one feels or looks higher than the other. You cansublux the joint. If so, you may need to push down on the joint in the same sequence as stated earlier. If neither helps it is probably just inflammed. A 10 day course of 3 ibuprofen 2x/day will help.

I think I remember reading in the off season that bullpens are easy to put together and that the back end of the bullpen isn't a priority because teams can just plug pitchers in there.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 4, 2014 -> 06:19 AM) More towards my neck Is it only when you turn your head? How about if you raise your arm over your head and pull it further with your opposite arm .