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QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) My point is, there has to be value somewhere. So when Buster Olney says the Sox are building around Peavy, I have to call BS--or the Sox are idiots. I disagree. The goal is to make the sox a better team. Peavy is an above average starting pitcher. That is worth alot. If the players you are being offered don't make the team that much better, don't do it.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) Still, it is fun watching everyone here melt down It's the best. It would be different if Hahn makes this statement Weds at 1. However with almost two days left, its more likely a negotiation ploy.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:27 PM) It's ridiculous to think the Sox haven't been offered at least one good prospect for Peavy. Make a freaking deal, idiots. Peavy is worth more than one good prospect

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) Hopefully this means he has a taker for Peavy lined up. Maybe it means that Hahn could not find a deal worthy of Peavy and Crain so he just dealt Crain.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:22 PM) Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 56s The White Sox are telling other teams they're going to keep Peavy and build around him. Yeah right! If Hahn doesn't get a package of players he thinks is worth it, he is a good player to build a staff around. I think it's a ploy to up the bidding. But if not he can still trade Q, Santiago or Peavy over the winter.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:15 PM) Freidman is a great GM. Trading for an a pitcher with an injured shoulder makes him a great GM? I'm not saying he isn't but this trade really shouldn't be what makes or breaks the reputation.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 03:16 PM) Yeah that. I'm lost as to why people are promoting 80 percent success rate as a good thing. That seems awfully low for a non life threatening surgery. Oh and then he still has to be as good as he was and make up for key developmental time lost It is 80% satisfaction to return to previous level. It's higher just to return to pitching. 80% is high for any type of "replacement" surgery is regards to return to previous level of activity. sports medicine while making great leaps in recent years is still not an exact science. There are still things that cannot be done. For example, replacing a posterior cruciate ligament. Many people return froma torn ACL but tear a PCL and you turn out like Urlacher and need to retire.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) Of course preparation is the key for any test. I'm not saying to walk in there cold turkey, plop down, and expect to ace it. I just will put forth a adequate amount of time studying for it. I'm not pulling an all nighter like it's a final exam. For some applicants trying to get into our program it's the make it or break it part. I always suggest to applicants that they should take the practice exams and focus on thier weaknesses. It sounds simple but even a point or two on the revised exam can make a big difference.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) The only way that makes sense is if the Sox plan on flipping Quintana or Santiago in the offseason for positional prospects. I just don't buy it. I still think it's because they know that it takes 6-7 starters for a WS run. If they trade Peavy there really isn't much depth.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:51 PM) I agree, but I think the premium prospect would be positional and not pitching. This is just me guessing, anyways. I hope you're right.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 27, 2013 -> 09:44 PM) Appears that Baltimore's system is very pitching heavy. I'd think Hahn would be pushing for impact position players, so I'm not sure this is a good match unless Baltimore gives up Gausman or Bundy (which they shouldn't). I still bet that they focus on pitching with maybe one position player.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 26, 2013 -> 12:47 PM) I would be ecstatic with Stanton playing at the Cell. I cant even imagine his power numbers there. People always say that in regards to the Cell but it never seems to work. Dunn is a prime example. His power numbers have not I creased and were down for the first couple of years. Thome did not increase either.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 26, 2013 -> 07:03 AM) Lol..Gammons on Mully & Hanley this morning still rocking the "White Sox want pitching" bulls***. This really wouldn't surprise me. You can never have enough pitching. A team needs to be 7 deep in quality starting pitching to win the WS. If the Six trade Peavy, do the have that? I don't think they trust Satiago's offspeed stuff yet. I'm not saying pitching is the primary piece of a trade, but they are probably insisting that pitching must be included.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 08:54 PM) Now I like to hear that. And Law hates the Sox lol. Make it happen Hahn, but only if the right deal is there. Don't you see this is another way for him to rip the Sox. He says they should get a great haul and then after the trade he can say they should have done much better. This is because he KNOWS they could have done better and reported it before the deal.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 10:12 AM) Ahh, you have to be honest about this stuff...you can't trade him and then have him show up to his new team and be like "i don't know if I can start with all this soreness I have been experiencing." Now we know why the trade hasn't happened yet.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 05:53 AM) Soxtalk diagnosis for ptatc: hangover. Happy bday bud. How did you know? Thanks everyone, moving very slowly today.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 10:08 AM) He was referencing the Yanks shedding payroll trying to avoid the luxury tax, I assume. OOPS. My bad. I misunderstood it. Relaxing too much on vacation.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 09:41 AM) It definitely flies in the face of everything else they've been doing the past couple years. You mean like spending more than almost anyone else in international signings. Theos way has always been to spend more money on prospects than anyone else. He used to over spend in the draft. Since the new rules won't allow it, he needs to outspend other teams elsewhere.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 09:30 PM) That's fine when you're talking about team performance. Wins are the only thing that matters. But when you're evaluating individual players, it's best to evaluate those players on things they can actually control. Whether or not Paul Konerko happened to get a base hit when De Aza or Pods was standing on 2b isn't an indication of how they performed. They already did their job by getting on base, whether or not they come around to score is largely dependent on the hitters behind them. This is true if you are concerned about the individual player. I'm not. The only thing that matters is winning the game. It's fun to discuss the individual player but not directly relevant to the team. The stats were invented for arbitration to get the players more money to say that they were good regardless of the team winning. P ersonally I enjoy watching the games and players. But in the end the only thing that matters for stats is wins and loses.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 08:57 PM) Though I don't agree at all with this statment, if you truly believe it, then De Aza should be your choice. He's on pace to finish the season with 97 runs, whereas Podsednik only scored 80 in 2005. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/28728/alejandro-de-aza http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/4...scott-podsednik This is true, if he makes it the full season. I do believe it because winning is the only thing that matters and to do that you need to score more runs than the other team. Everything else is fun discussion but irrelevant.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 08:35 PM) The primary job of a lead-off hitter, like all hitters, is to be productive. OBP is very important in a lead-off man, but slugging has to be part of the equation too. It's also worth mentioning the run environment in '05 was higher than it is now. Podsednik's OBP was 20 points above league average, whereas De Aza's is 13 points above league average this season. Though Podsednik certainly contributed more value on the bases, I don't think that's enough to make up for De Aza's 90 point advantage in slugging. It's all about run production. How many runs scored and RBIs are produced. It's tough to be good at both OBP and Slugging without the PEDs. Everything else is really just playing with numbers. I think that overall they are comparable but DeAza is not that much better if at all.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 08:08 PM) De Aza has been a better "lead-off hitter" each of the past 2 years than Podsednik was in '05. I know we all love to glorify players from the '05 team, and Podsednik certainly had his role, but his offense isn't the reason that team won the World Series. Pods in '05: .290/.351/.349 88 wRC+ De Aza this year: .270/.328/.437 105 wRC+ I would disagree. The primary job of the leadoff hitter IMHO is getting on base and scoring runs. Podsednik has a 20 point lead in OBP and so far leads runs scored 80 -55. Not saying Pods was great but he did his job as well if not better than DeAza.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 04:38 PM) Trade Winds forum: pissing in the wind until bucket or a national sportswriter shares information That should be the title of the forum, pissing into the wind instead of trade winds

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 01:54 PM) Nolan Ryan wanted to go to a 4 man rotation when he took over in Texas, but because all your talent isn't homegrown, it's going to be hard for a team to have 4 major league quality guys physically trained for that unless a lot of other teams jump on board. Hawk had an idea where they should make the seams higher and larger so pitchers wouldn't have to put as much stress on their arms throwing breaking pitches. I hadn't heard this but it's a great idea. The pitchers will decrease the stress on the arm for the same break. The umps don't always call the break now so the pitchers won't increase the break except for a waste pitch.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 12:15 PM) Yes. We don't need him as an innings eater. We need him as an ace, front of the rotation starter. And our other young pitchers should be ridden less as well. This team doesn't exist so that Ventura and Cooper can scratch out 70 wins instead of 65 I disagree. As I said the wins don't matter. However, build ing arm and body endurance is important. For the Sox to be a successful team they need him to be pitching as much as possible as he is the best pitcher.