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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 10, 2013 -> 11:55 AM) The real trick is getting people to associate a negative connotation with "Abnormal". People with blonde hair are abnormal. In this country, black people are abnormal. Exactly. Abnormal doesn't mean negative just not the norm. Positive or negative is a judgement someone puts on something.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 7, 2013 -> 10:46 AM) I'm sure there are some. Duke university has years of studies that show smoking cigarettes are good for your health. Duke is in North Carolina where the major crop is tobacco. The state probably gave them very specific parameters for a study to increase sales.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) How is being something God made you a sin and how is one forgiven for it considering it’s not something one can change? Being in a profession based on science we don't get into religious issues much at the workplace. However, there was an interesting one the other day. The topic of homosexuality came and and one of the researchers said it is an "abnormal behavior." The questions was brought up as why. She replied if all animals were meant to be homosexual there would be no species propagation and they would cease to exist. It's not wrong because there are different behaviors ion all animals but it isn't the norm. I never really looked at it that way and still haven't figured out the concept in my own mind.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 7, 2013 -> 10:48 AM) then perhaps you do not work for us and it would be unfair for us to pay taxes toward the school. Simply have the foreign students pay the pensions. Remove all esponsibility from Illinois tax payers if the school refuses to accept appropriate numbers of them as students. This is changing as the state has cut the funding of it's state universities from almost 75% to only 20%. It's not the foriegn student because many of them get reduced tuition by federal and other means, it's the out of state students (assuming you mean foreign as in country). It's the state cutting funding as putting a cap on raising tuition that has the universities looking for alternative funding streams ie. out of state students. I would prefer that the state stop the ruse of us being state schools and cuts us free to run it as we wish. However, there's that mission of making higher education accessible to the underprivleged and underrepresented that they force us to accommodate. When I started the low salary was in place with a promise of the pension. Besides, the public hasn't paid into the pension for almost 10 years so there isn't anything to complain about.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 09:01 PM) they won't pay mine either Yes, but you don't work for them. I theoretically do, even though the state is 120 days behind in paying our payroll. This is why the state university system cannot keep students in state.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 06:28 PM) ...and that's exactly what will happen. Yep, and you'll get the services you pay for. You wonder why The University of Illinois won't accept students from the state. And it is required by law but it's a law they decide to ignore which is why the system is in the position it is. The private citizens will not pay for my pension, at least not much of it. It's going to come down to me having to pay more and get less. At times I'm really happy I work for the people in this state.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2013 -> 06:13 PM) (This isn't actually why they're losing money. They're losing money because Congress passed a law a few years ago requiring them to pre-fund their pension plan out to 75 years by 2016, something that I'm pretty sure no one has to do anywhere. Without that enormous pension pre-funding, the USPS would actually be operating at a profit right now, despite being required to maintain saturday delivery and maintaining unprofitable post offices throughout the country in rural areas). The State of Illinois is required by law to fund my pension. Oh wait.... they haven't contributed in 10 years.

QUOTE (Jake @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 09:52 PM) So I officially am in wait to get surgery done on my shoulder. I will not be able to lift weights with my upper body again until at least December. Some of this is due to the fact I'm putting off surgery until after the school year, but you get the point. Someone in my office mentioned a St. Jude Marathon happening here in December. I realized that instead of half-assing my way around the weight room and aimlessly conditioning, I can start to prepare for that marathon. Granted, there will be a significant "blip" of sorts in May when I get operated on, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't start prepping now. I can do 5 and 10k's before then and I'll be in a far better starting position then than I am now if I start hitting it hard. With that said, anyone have any suggestions on how to get started on this quest? I don't want to plunge in too quickly and get hurt. I used to train with the Dr. Daniels Running Bible in high school, should I pick that up? There are many different way to do it. I've personally run 6 marathons. Some of it depends on your goal. Is it just to finish or to achieve a time goal. Here is a link for a couple of good just to finish types: http://www.marathonrookie.com/marathon-training.html.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 08:01 PM) Would you say that power 2 seamer he threw could play into the destroyed shoulder? Things like that are always possible. I've just never seen nor heard of doing surgery to loosen a "too tight" teres major. That shouldn't happen to that muscle. That being said pitching does weird things to any shoulder so as I said it's suspicious.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) Whoa, implying something? Not necessarily. Just with the odd tendon injury and the quick rise and fall, it's suspicious. Of course with any player around that time period there is a reasonable doubt.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 11:20 AM) He fell off the map so quickly. From up and comer to beast to done seemingly overnight. Kind of makes you wonder how that happened doesn't it?

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 10:24 PM) Who's a drummer. I was just going for the similar name. He could probably play. If not Coop will fix him (he can fix anything)

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 4, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) his power sinker/forkball/splitter/whatever it was was just filthy. And on top of his game he was bringing it mid 90s and making that off speed pitch that much better. Another guy that had the labrum destroy his career From what I remember, the latest injury in 2009 wasn't a labrum injury it was a muscular injury. I believe it was a teres major injury. It was the first one I'd heard of that they did surgery on. They did surgery to "loosen" the muscle which never made sense to me. It acts as a stabilizer for internal rotation of the shoulder. So this surgery would seem to contradict that. They had to have a good reason but it always baffled me.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Feb 4, 2013 -> 10:40 AM) Yup, it's pretty well known that left handers are better suited at 1b. A lefty also has a better angle/tagline for pickoff moves at 1b. The only advantage a RH has is protecting the line more efficiently and going quickly to the foul line as the glove is on that side. This way he can play a little closer to the 2B.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 04:22 PM) But he tore his ACL. Didnt ptatc say that HGH and PEDs dont affect tendons and ligaments? The PEDs will effect the strength of the muscles around the joint. It won't help the tendon-turned-ligament become a ligament faster but it will help the strength and the leg muscles to support it. The tendon has become a ligament in about 6 months. The rest of the time is getting the range of motion and strength back to full.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2013 -> 03:24 PM) Lead guitarist for a heavy metal band? That's Lars Ullrich from Metallica.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) I know I haven't posted in a while on here, but I need your help. So I've been picked as one of 50 finalists to get into the MLB Fan Cave. So in typical Chicago fashion I need my fellow ST members to vote early & often. It'd be pretty cool to get to go to spring training & cover the rest of the season. Thanks in advance, I'll give everyone that votes a free hug. Vote here -> http://mlbfancave.mlb.com/fancave/vote.jsp...5952ebd8b6c7d44 +1

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 30, 2013 -> 08:32 PM) Of course wins matter. They're ultimately what get you into the playoffs and what you need to win a World Series. Unfortunately, wins don't tell the whole story, since output and outcomes aren't always equal. Look, I'm not arguing that the Sox are the better team on paper. I think the Tigers are the favorites heading into 2013. I just think the two teams are a lot closer than a lot of people realize. A big part of that IMO is the defensive advantage we have, which was my original point all along. This is the problem I have with the advanced stats that many people cling to. They are fun to discuss and may tell you how someone performed but in the end they are meaningless. The World Series is not won by the individual stats of players. It's won by the teams who had the most wins in the playoffs (mostly the regular season as well). So in the end wins do tell the story of what is the most important, the rest is just fun discussions.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 29, 2013 -> 09:03 PM) The problem is oral bioavailability. He wouldn't take a ton of the oral if he was aware of these dosing issues...he would just take HGH via injection Exactly. That's why either one of two things probably happened. He is either telling the truth and getting minimal physiologic benefit (but a lot of placebo effect) or he is lying and using this to cover his immediate tracks.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 29, 2013 -> 06:44 PM) Has anyone made any kind of statement about how much of this stuff Lewis used? If "rigorously controlled scientific studies" show no effects...what happens when you remove the control and down 50 times as much as the tested dose? I haven't seen the answers to either of those. The answer to the second question is similar to "what exactly happens to the body at different high doses of steriods." There really is no ethical way to study it.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 29, 2013 -> 03:21 PM) You keep saying antler velvet. I keep reading antler extract(not velvet, the antler itself). And if the product actually does contain that banned substance, then it seems you are wrong It does contain a substance banned at a certain level. It naturally occurs in the body and does have PED effects if you take great quantities of it. This is why in the literature it doesn't show up as really having much effect. The quantities are too low. It's like the female swimmer in the 2000 olympics who claimed that a positive test was from a substance in her birth control pills. She was correct that the substance was there but to get the dosage level she would need to take 400 pills a day.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 29, 2013 -> 03:26 PM) Mine is cartilage, joints and ligaments. One of my biggest issues is my knee cap not settling back into its spot all the time. most of the new research shows that the patella malalignment you are referring to is really caused by hip abductor and external rotator insufficiency. The larger hip muscles stabilize the femur and reduces the patella excursion.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 29, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) The recent advent of topical TRT products is thanks to Patrick Arnold, the chemist behind the Cream and the Clear. He and I are acquaintances (he lives in Seymour, IL and still sells legal supplements). Anyways, if the documents only say that Gio took the AminoRip, then that newspaper has done him a huge disservice. That's nothing, you can buy similar products all over the place. Under most conditions, they would do nothing at all. Almost as asinine as the line of inquiry on Ray Lewis and Deer Antler Velvet, which doesn't do a damn thing. I would agree if that is all he took. It's wrong to group him in with the rest of them unless other substances were used. The topicals like clear and creme are different. I was speaking to the typical prescription for low testosterone. It's the illegal ones that are in professional sports.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 29, 2013 -> 12:46 PM) So what are you thinking? Platelet therapy? Platelet therapy is for mostly for tendons. For the joints a little synthdisc or one of those is about the best you can do for an injection.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 29, 2013 -> 11:32 AM) It's not TOO hard to get a prescription for testosterone, I know a lot of fitness-oriented guys that have done it. You're not given d-bol or something super potent, but T replacement therapy can have some big time physique benefits. Oftentimes you're sacrificing your fertility in this quest, though, if you jump into it as young as some of my acquaintances. This is the key. The dosage of the drug given out for replacement therapy is not enough to produce the massive strength change you see in the professional athletes. This is also very easy to detect with normal PED testing.