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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Nov 9, 2010 -> 01:46 PM) I would honestly rather not see him pitch for us until mid-way through the season in '11. Let him take all the time in the world to REALLY get back to 100%. If he's throwing off a mound in January, let him keep working his endurance and velocity up until he's Jake Peavy again. Trying to rush back will obviously only hurt him. He will be ready in time. The length of time it takes to rehab a tendon injury is well within the timeframe the team has set. Starting his throwing and getting ready for the season isn't rushing him. He will be 100% healthy. The question remains if he can pitch effectively without dropping his arm angle down too low. His shoulder angle dropped down to sidearm while his torso remained upright during the pitch where he had the injury. I have not doubt that his tendency to drop down on pitches when he is trying to fool hitters was the cause of the shoulder soreness and eventual tendon rupture.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 8, 2010 -> 05:42 PM) Merkin has a long piece on Sale's role next year. Some money bits. I love how little research the writers do on injuries. They are all reporting that Peavy's injury is in the posterior aspect of his shoulder. While the muscles is on the back the tendon actually wraps around to the front and it's an anterior shoulder problem and all of the surgery and rehab focuses on the anterior shoulder not the posterior.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 09:19 AM) Some people only believe in a few days, not four months. These are the people who are legitimately baseball stupid. Or maybe the short sightedness is for the people that only look at the first 4 months of this season not his career. He has been a decent player his whole career. He is having a bad year so far, but what is to say he won't play closer to his career averages for the rest of the season? I'm not a big Kotsay fan in the full time DH role because he is a decent unspectacular player but the unrelentless bashing is getting old. Calling people baseball stupid because their opinion is different is going to the extreme.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 4, 2010 -> 09:10 PM) Delgado is Bo Jackson, 17 years later? I know this was in jest, however, he didn't have a hip replacemnt. The first surgery was fairly common where the labrum was repaired and a supr was removed. These are common etiologies for hip impingement. These are relatively common and really of no long term consequence. However, the second surgery included a microfracture prcedure. This is usually done to create bleeding and improve the healing process in damaged cartilage. This is done to prolong the time before a total hip replacement is needed. He would need to show me he can swing the bat on a regular basis before I signed him to a deal. The rotation in the hip during a baseball swing is a violent motion and could be impaired by this. It isn't a huge problem if they just sign him to finish the season but I would be very cautious in dealing with this one.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 08:24 PM) Anyone who bothered to look at those kinds of stats, coupled with Swish’s statistical trends could tell you that 2008 was a fluke. Trying to write him off because he K’d and popped out, is the same kind of shortsighted logic that says that Thome clogs the bases. The fact is that Swish walked and hit for power from both sides of the plate. Thus, striking out comes with the territory. It’s just a damn shame that Ozzie didn’t take to him, like he’s taken to Mark Kotsay. Ozzie was on Swishers side early in the season. Everyone soon learned that he was a complete jacka** and no one on the team could stand him. Regardless of the stats, although his bad year made it worse, he had to go.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 3, 2010 -> 11:40 AM) Maybe Chris sale is the next Stephen Strausberg? After watching some video clips, sale does not hold his shoulder in internal rotation (W position) near as long as Strasberg. While the mechanics aren't ideal, Sale's tendency for injury is less than that of Strasberg.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 09:47 PM) Call me skeptical. Every organization has a Carlos Torres, I seriously can't imagine he is being traded for anything of consequence. Maybe as a throw-in, but he would not be a centerpiece in any deal big or small. It could be that Hudson might be traded and they wanted Torres fresher for work this weekend.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 04:27 PM) We can dream right? Werth would be the perfect fit for this team. It'd mean a full time DH in Quentin with a plus outfielder in right with a great bat. Who also hits in the postseason. The sox will never DH Quentin full time. On paper it's the best however Ozzie and other players have talked about how crazy he is in the dugout between at bats when he DHs. Theoretically, it's great but it's not practical because you would see a drop in his numbers.

QUOTE (clown baby @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 04:09 PM) Does anybody else really like the idea of keeping Morel long term? He's been praised for his defense, and that would be great to have an elite infield of Morel, Alexei, and Beckham. That would be spectacular. I've been a fan since he was drafted. The good defense with solid bat also fits into Ozzie's mentality so I would prefer they keep him.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 03:52 PM) This injury is unprecedented in baseball so I'll take their expected timetable with a grain of salt. EDIT: And I wasn;t the one making the case to trade for Lilly for that particular rationale. Unprecedented in baseball but not for tendon reattachment surgeries. As I've said before he should be ready by spring training. If not something catastophic will have happened. It's always a possibility but highly doubtful.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 03:34 PM) I just happened to be watching and picturing him in a Sox uni at the exact moment of contact, it was quite an experience. I think I need to go change my pants. Would love to add some of that sweet, sweet oppo power to a team that doesn't hit a lot of balls out the other way. Put down the remote. Back away carefully and go outside. That is the sun and there is a road. You need to get out more often.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 02:49 PM) Is he a hitter anymore? Why can't they play Dayan against a RH? Makes no sense to turn a kid into a platoon player at 21. I don't think the Sox think he isready for full time duty, whether it be because of Ks or defense or whatever, so they limiting his exposure. He was really the only viable option when they lost Teahen.

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 01:59 PM) It's really been quite the opposite. Both Haren and Oswalt have been traded for pretty terrible packages. Part of this resean is that neither pitcher was pitching really well and the commitment for another year with big money. Haren was having a poor year for the D-backs in the NL and still had time on the contract. So he may not have helped down the stretch. Oswalt was having a pretty good year but I think more GMs a hesitant to have pitchers move from the NL to AL and contribute right away. He also has another year on his deal.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 10:57 AM) didn't he shoot JFK?

It was talked about on the radio and is on MLB Trade rumors

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 10:20 AM) Abreu would come cheap since he does have the contract obligation. I think he makes around $10 million next year. I wouldn't mind if we got Abreu, he does make this team better. Hell, anyone makes this team better because of Kotsay. And I didn't realize that the Angels are now in third place and at .500... Talk about a big swing since the Haren deal. I agree, this would be good move.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 09:21 PM) You wouldnt even last that long. You know what? Im okay being a team struggling to get out of the AL Central, Im okay with not being able to trade for top players like Cabrera, Fielder, etc. Im okay that I cant question the methods of this franchise because, well, it just feels wrong to question someone who is better than the crap we used to have, even if they do have major flaws. Im okay with having big resources being wasted on crap players. Im okay giving this team a pass on its downfalls because they won a f***ing WS, and because they did I wont ever question their decisions again, even if I see them being able to easily improve an area that would help win another one. You can always question it, good fans always should. I just disagree with your premise that they are doing a good job. However, KW and Ozzie have gotten good results with the resources allotted to them over the past 10 years. We all know the KW spent most of the resources on pitching and the offense was going to suffer. You can micromanage every move or look at the big picture. You can prefer to focus on the minors or the major league team, KW doesn't have the resources to really improve both. No one has said you can't question it, I just disagree.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 05:03 PM) Your organization should be up for contraction if you can't find a suitable replacement for Mark Teahen. Whether it be by veterans or prospects.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 04:43 PM) Yeah, but Mauer has underachieved (by his standards) most of the year. He's really heating up of late. If he goes 2009 the rest of the way it could be curtains. Everyone has down years. Let's hope this is his and he stays there without Morneau's protection.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 04:59 PM) Is that potential career ending? That is his second one. It depends on the cause of the flexor tendon injury. If it is isolated to the tendon and is only a grade 1 or 2, it will heal without difficulties. If the tendons were strained due to laxity in the elbow ligaments it's a ligament replacement surgery.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 04:47 PM) Now I have been drinking. It's 2010, correct? It's not 1994 and we have Robin Ventura, right? You can't be serious. I don't believe Robin Ventura was playing for the Sox this year. Although that injury he sustained in spring training the one year was horrific. I'm just pointing out that players can be replaced with veterans not highly-touted unproven prospects.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 04:23 PM) Or to alleviate injuries throughout the year. Shane Victorino, an all-star last year, goes on the DL. What do the Phillies do? Call up a consensus top 10 prospect, 5 tool talent in Dominic Brown to step in. I'd hate to see what our alternative would be say Rios were to go down. That's a terrifying thought. Or how the Whits Sox team performance dropped when they lost their starting 3B.........oh wait a veteran stepped in and performed well right away. Prospects are suspects until they've proven they can play at the MLB level.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 01:58 PM) It's only a good plan if you have capable offensive players, which we really don't have in Kotsay and Jones. That wasn't the question. The question was why was Rios at DH. and Jones in CF. And I agree with Balta, Jones has done a good job. Another question: could the resting of Konerko, Rios and TCQ allow them to be more fresh and have a better overall season as opposed to the lineup with someone like Thome full time at DH? If nothing else to probably has allowed TCQ to play more without lower extremity injuries. There is no way to know for sure just a question that popped into my ADHD mind.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 03:50 PM) There is a balance between talent, luck, and management of the team. I just believe that an abundance of talent will help the downfalls of being unlucky or not having the greatest manager more than luck or a great manager has on a bad team. Ill leave it at that. Everything you said is true. The abundance of talent is the easiest to control of the group there is no denying that.

QUOTE (kane0730 @ Jul 28, 2010 -> 03:19 PM) Since there isn't much Dunn news today, let's get hypothetical. What would your line-up (not Ozzie's) be with Dunn? *assuming no position player is traded Mine: Pierre Ramirez Rios Konerko Dunn Quentin AJ Beckham Omar Ozzie would put Dunn between Rios and Konerko to break up the righties.