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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 09:15 AM) Here's a summary study I found by googling. I can send a pdf if you'd like. There's a number of things that affect it. Heavy production using fertilizers and GM crops that grow faster appear to dilute the amount of nutrients that can be taken up during the lifecycle. Artificial selection in favor of more carbohydrate rich seeds produces plants that grow with greater sugar content, but other nutrients aren't selected for and thus aren't going along. Other industrial techniques, like early harvesting and factory preservation of vegetables, similarly cut the nutrient content. Yes, please send me the pdf. I can't get enough of the information from the abstract. If you have more research article I would appraciate seeing them as well. Being in research myself, I don't take any one study at face value.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 01:29 AM) Well, considering that the way people structure their eating habits is based on what the government's daily recommendations are, I think the government has been telling us how to eat for quite some time. Meanwhile, they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. They've tried to deconstruct food and reconstruct it with only the properties they believe are the most positive ones. Unfortunately, they end up putting in artificial things that are worse than the natural things they removed. Additionally, only now are nutritionists starting to realize that foods have synergistic qualities that we don't have the capability to understand. Secondly, the government has been subsidizing certain crops that have proven to be the highest-yielding for 40 years in an effort to end poverty and make food less expensive. Unfortunately that means our agriculture is dominated by very few strains of very few crops using very few soil components all treated with the same pesticides. What this has done is indeed increased yields and brought down the costs of food. But it also means our foods are dominated by the same few strains of wheat and corn, and our produce the same few strains of the highest yielding fruits and vegetables. There is no variation. That is not healthy. We are not getting the variety of nutrients we should be. Additionally, our soil has been degraded to the point where our crops are not nearly as nutritionally dense as they once were. They are becoming almost as empty calories as the artificial crap we put on our shelves. How terrible is it that you can't even get the nutrients you need out of the produce that comes right out of the soil? And guess what? That soil is the same thing that the feed that we feed our livestock grows from. So then the livestock is fed a bunch of empty calories and develops into the meat that we eventually eat down the line, which is not as healthy as the meat our parents ate and their parents ate before them. I agree the government standards aren't up to the latest standards, it is far from unheathy. It takes time to get through the government red tape. If you follow their guidelines you will not be fat and unheathy. The research has shown that it is an adequate but not perfect diet. Remember the guidelines are for recommended minimum allowances. You can't blame the government standards for being inadequate if the nutritionist themselves as you state are just begining to understand the synergistic properties of foods. Which is true. But that's for very advanced diets for special needs suchas diabetes, athletes etc. Most nutritionist, dieticians and medical professionals will agree on what a good heathy diet is for an average heathy person. There is nothing wrong with the types of crops which are being subsidized. It is not unheathy to have only a few strains of corn, wheat and beans. We do need variety in a diet to be heathy. But the variety isn't in the form of diferent type of corn or different type of whaet. You need many different types of nutrition but all of the types of corn etc. have basically the same nutrition. It varies some but not a great deal. the soil is not effected if the farmers rotate their crops asmost do. In the Midwest they rotate between corn and beans as each one concentrates on absorbing different minerals from the soil. Like all plants the use the same minerals but use different concentrations of each. I would like to see any information regarding how the soil makes the crops less nutritionally dense. The minerals in the soil will allow the crops to grow properly or not. So they can either be harvested or not. The nutritional value of the crop is in the intrinsic value of the given crop and not what it brings in from the soil, that is primarily for growth. With the catle, there is no feedcorn the has empty calories. The corn will either be heathy enough to harvest and contain the nutrients or it won't be harvested because no one will buy it. While some of your points are valid, you are taking a far too extreme view of them. A varied diet is essential to being heathy and all medical professionalls will agree that if you eat all foods in moderation and eat moderate proportion you stand a ggod cance of being at least fairly heathy. The special needs populations are where it really changes.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 12:59 AM) Its not McDonald's fault, or CocaCola, or the government. Its the parents and the individual's who choose to eat garbage over a proper diet. People who shove 1100 calorie super-sized meals into their yap with their diet coke of course, and then complain when they lose track of their feet because they can't see them anymore are missing who is to blame. Moderation in a diet is a wonderful thing. Hell some portion control with some common sense and maybe a tad of exercise would do people a lot of good. The worst thing however is that the current generation is preparing the next generation for failure. Happy meals, and sweets, and garbage are quick and easy and in the end people get into habit of just making their kids happy. We need to start from day one and influence our kids food selections. Kids learn from day one from their parents and their eating habits. If you are sitting on the couch shoving twinkies in your mouth guess what the kid wants to do. So if you incorporate fruits, vegetables, and lean meats with the proper portions from day one you should have a better success rate and healthier kids. Sure my kids like a happy meal, but the fact is we may go to a McDonalds once a month if at that. Correct. I get caught up in it to often as well. Between running from football practice to dance classes after school with the kids sometimes it's easier to go to the crap food.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 11:59 PM) You don't have to be stretched out to go 5 frigging innings, look at Tony Pena this season. Being daft is assuming that, if they trade Hudson, the next best starting prospect in our system wouldn't make a start or two. They'll abuse Pena that way, he's done it before. They won't do that with a recent first round pick of which they are planning on limiting the innings. Do you think they would do that to Putz, Thornton or Jenks?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 08:51 PM) It's exactly the opposite. The American public has been mislead by the government and has been eating on the government's tab since the Nixon administration, which is part of the reason the rate of chronic disease is so high with all populations eating the "Western Diet." I've got to hear this one. I don't see how the government has mislead me or most of my clients about the benefits of a poor diet and they aren't picking up the tab for eating either.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 14, 2010 -> 12:39 AM) I wonder if he has to pay for his own hotel room. Not to be a dick, but he's not needed on road trips. He's staying with the team mostly for the specialized rehabilitation. He travels where Herm and Mark go. Since this is somewhat unkonwn territory, they are going to watch him close.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 08:33 PM) When will you get the point that it's not the government's f***ing place to tell us this kind of crap? While not a government official, Michelle My Belle is hypocritical as hell. Do I think it's a good idea? Sure. But AGAIN it's not the government's place to do this. I generally agree that the goverment tries to get it's hands on too many things that they shouldn't. I'm torn on this one. It's not in the country's best interst to have a fat lazy population and the healthcare costs will increase for everyone in any plan. While it does keep me in business, it seems that at times the American public needs to be told to be not so stupid.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 05:04 PM) Joe Morgan from what I've heard is a strange cat. He is Al Micheals strange.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 04:50 PM) What kind of logic is that? The team is 25-5 and and you want to talk about the defense of a guy who is ON FIRE? That's not very logical to me. I think it "gets a little tiring" to nitpick at this present time. Greg, i gave up these "discussions" years ago. Some posters just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something even during the good times. They'll always point out the weaknesses or bad pints just so everything isn't positive. This isn't a shot at anyone poster, there will just always be that type of poster. They have every right to post those views just remember you will never convince them that it's ok to be positve and not always point out whatever negative they can find.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 04:11 PM) Steinbrenner was a titan of the game, he was also a son of a b****. I hope that no one forgets that amidst the post-mortem glorification. There's something to be said about what his spending methods have done to the integrity of the game but I don't really want to make a big deal out of that. There's no reason to make a big deal aabout it because he did not effect "the integrity of the game". He followed the rules that were agreed upon. Don't get me wrong I think there should be a cap and a floor to salaries to make the game more competitive and even for all teams. However, these weren't the current rules and he followed the rules that were in place.

SS QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 03:43 PM) After reading Verducci's book about the Yankees, I got a very negative view of Steinbrenner. He treated his employees like s***. One year, he failed to give his scouts rings. I'm sorry, but the guy was a grade A douchebag. It sucks that he died, but I'm not going to all of the sudden start talking about how great a person he was. I worked for him in the late 80's and that wasn't my experience with him. He seemed to treat both groups I worked with pretty well. I know his reputation and I've read the book but that wasn't my experience with him. So he wasn't all bad.

RIP I had the priveledge to work for him at Balmoral while in school and then later in the minors. He was a good guy and great to his employees. Except maybe Billy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 08:25 AM) Has Morneau switched himself to the supposedly awkward looking larger, better protecting helmet yet? If not, is he crazy? Yes, he would be crazy. I'm not they've done CAT scans with him but the number of concussions and the length of time it takes to recover from them is a huge concern. In this one he was kneed in the head. He should not have a headache three days later. This is showing a vastly increased sensitivity to them. ALL precautions should be taken if he was a client of mine. So, bean him on Friday I didn't just think that did I?

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 10:52 AM) Indeed it is. On a big Costello kick of late, and he's always been one of my favorites. Mine too. I've seen him many times over the years in large and small venues. Always an excellent performer.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 11, 2010 -> 10:32 AM) Buffalo Trace is good stuff, and the distillery makes a lot of very good products. Get adventurous and try the Buffalo Trace with this one from CocktailDB. Don't be put off by the use of maple syrup as a cocktail ingredient, it's a very traditional ingredient that we've just forgotten about in modern days. I think this drink is a winner. I asked this in another thread but don't know if you saw it, is that a young Declan MacManus in your avatar? It looks like him but I don't think I've seen it.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 10, 2010 -> 08:48 PM) Keep it going Boys! Is that a young Declan MacManus in your avatar?

QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 10, 2010 -> 01:53 PM) fwiw, I've read on Tribe boards that Branyan was absolutely hated in the clubhouse. He's not a pleasant individual.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 10, 2010 -> 09:39 AM) So this potentially makes for an interesting point. If there is insurance involved here, could this mean we now have the cash to make a bigger move than we thought? I'm sure there is some insurance involved. The amount of coverage they were able to get is the question. They couldn't get the whole contract covered but they usually have at least a portion covered.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Jul 10, 2010 -> 09:36 AM) So was the shoulder fatigue and fluid build up that Peavy was experincing in May/June a precursor to this injury or are they completely unrelated? I believe it's an unrelated problem. Usually the fluid is in the larger portion of the shoulder capsule and caused by inflammation of the stabilizing muscles such as the rotator cuff. The shoulder is one of the few joints in the body that really relies on muscle for stability instead of ligaments. This is why the rotator cuff is so important. When it isn't functioning properly the shoulder gets loose and can cause irritations which can produce excess inflammation or release true excess synovial fluid in the joint.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 10:46 PM) What are the odds of him being better than average again? Not good. This was ... wasted money. It's not just Jake. It's giving pitchers these mega contracts. Very very stupid business. My guess is that he'll come back and be the same pitcher, without the drop down pitches. I've rehabbed this injury before, although not with a pitcher and they were fine. The positive side of this injury is that it is not a stabilizer of the shoulder such as the rotator cuff or the biceps. The surgery is to reattach a tendon to bone which a lot easier than repairing a tendon like in a rotator cuff surgery or cartilage like in a labrum surgery. It's an uncommon surgery but an easier one. I do agree giving pitchers long contracts is very risky. I would rather give them alot of money in shorter term deals.

QUOTE (zimne piwo @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 01:24 AM) I usually don't advise anyone to check out that s***hole, but it has provided some very entertaining reading over the past couple of weeks. I also noticed that one clown who uses up all the bandwidth with his ridiculous stats and his "The Cubs are 6-5 when the Santa Ana Winds blow on a Tuesday Evening" crap is still being his usual nimrod self. That's a great name. Anytime beer is included in a name it's all good.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 07:59 PM) Our RHH are above average vs RHP, it's our LHH who are killing us vs RHP because they are not good hitters. our RHH vs RHP: .259/.326/.443/.769 league average: .259/.318/.410/.728 our LHH vs RHP: .259/.324/.364/.688 league average: .263/.336/.407/.743 Just as we suspected during ST: we're getting no power from the left hand side. Personally, I don't really care what side of the plate our newly acquired hitter bats from just as long as he's a good hitter with above average power because that's what we're lacking: productive hitters with some pop. It just so happens that some of the more intriguing names out there are left handed hitters. Agreed. That's why I don't think the focus should be on a LHH only.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 07:36 PM) You should detach one of its arms. Really. I should have known the Peavy injury was going to happen! My Peavy bobblehead came in the mail with it's arm broken off.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 07:41 PM) .259/.325/.412/.738 vs righties (that's before today, worse after getting shutdown by Santana) .234/.319/.385/.704 vs Lefties and then comes the rub . . . 2390 PA vs RHP and only 702 vs LHP. 77.2% of our total PA this season have come vs righties (higher after today). We go up against SIGNIFICANTLY more righties than lefties and our team line vs RHP is below league average which is .264/.333/.415/.747. It would stand to reason that we could use a some help against the pitchers that we face more than 3/4 of the time when our team OPS is 9th in the AL against said pitchers. I agree we could use some help. Our offense is below average all across the board except HRs. Even though we face more RHP (at least so far this year) we are worse off against LHP. I don't know if the trend of the drastic difference in LHP vs RHP will continue but as a team we are worse against the LHP and might be as much if not a higher priority. Our RHH don't seem to be getting the job done against the LHP. Of course maybe thats because they haven't seen many this year.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 8, 2010 -> 07:04 PM) We don't need to make this move. Frankly, we really shouldn't. This hurts us long-term and is a bit of overkill in the short. Just get a lefty bat and a lefty arm for the pen. Everyone keeps saying we need a lefty bat. If I'm reading the stats right we have a 259BA and 738OPS against RH pitchers and a 227BA and 696 OPS against LH pitchers. This would imply to me that we need help from RH hitters not LH hitters or at least players that can hit LH pitchers effectively.