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QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 02:25 PM) I hope you are right but I have seen nothing that would lead me to believe that this will happen. Verlander is the only young and inexperienced guy in the rotation. Minor will be replaced by Maroth. Their bullpen has been excellent (minus Todd Jones). Maroth=not good. And does Franklin German really give you the heebie-jeebies? Again, not worried.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2006 -> 02:13 PM) And you base this on what? The fact that they have the best pitching staff in baseball? They don't even have to play .500 ball the rest of the way to get 90 wins. EDIT: They can go winless in July and be 3 games over .500. They won't go over .500 after the all-star break. And while their starters have been good, they're young and experienced. Verlander is going to fall off the table. And their bullpen is nothing to write home about. What are you worried about? We got this.

Yes, we lost. On a walk-off homer - those games are gonna happen, but nothing to jump off the bridge over. I love the way this team keeps coming back and coming back in games. No quit. I love it. Remember how many games Marte & Vizcaino blew last year and we thought we were done for because of those games - we still won 99. Mark it down, the Tigers are not winning over 90 games this season. They're good, but not THAT good. Not White Sox good. By mid-August, we will be laughing at them and be more worried about Minnesota than Detroit. See Baltimore last year. Chill out people.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 12:17 PM) Please stop comparing a sexual preference to a race/nationality. They are far far far from the same thing. Do you know that idiot, moron, and imbecile are also offensive? Do you use those words? They have double meanings as well. They were once used as classes of mental retardation. You use the terms now, I am sure, as a why of calling someone stupid. However, you use this word to refer to a mentally challenged person and the person's family will be very offended. The words have double meanings. Many words do. *** refers to a cigarette, a drudge, a peon, a british student, and a sissy or girly man. Put what he said in context and you determine the meaning. It didn't sound like he was calling him a homosexual male. Just my opinion. This from Mariotti's article, but that's it. 1. You are wrong. They are exactly the same thing - traits given at birth. 2. Yes, words like that are hurtful as well. Do you rationalize calling people "retard?" Just as wrong. But saying that the word "***" means anything other than a gay slur in the connotation that Ozzie used it in is false. That's like saying the n-word spoken by non-blacks needs to be judged on its context. Are you kidding me? Also, if he meant sissy or girly man, are these not also terms designed to question someone's masculinity, as is calling someone a gay slur? Why do we do this, when the concepts of masculinity and femininity are total lies - socially-designed contructs that dictate how members of a particular sex should and should not act, developed by patriarchal systems through millenia of sexism. Why do we care if someone is gay? What makes this an insult? Why do we care how much of a "man" or "woman" someone is - because society has told us these things are inportant and they're not. They're bulls***. I'm glad Ozzie wasn't fired or suspended. A fine and sensitivity training is fine by me. QUOTE(longshot7 @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 11:42 AM) I have to disagree with nearly everyone - I don't think the media is blowing this out of proportion. What Ozzie said was wrong - even if it was meant to challenge the guy's manhood and not as a gay slur. No matter the context or connotation, it is a gay slur, just like the n-word is a racial slur and k*** is a jewish slur. What's sad is that homophobia and heterosexism is so ingrained in our culture that using the word "***" is a commonplace insult just like calling something "gay" is an insult. Most people that use those words don't mean them as gay slurs, but does that make them any less hurtful to gays, no. "Get that ***" is a common jeer hurled at the TV at our sports bar during football season, and when I point out that it's not cool, I'm the one who's in the wrong. The n-word is not acceptable by non-blacks, and the use of "***" by non-gays is not acceptable either. Another argument is that it's only words and they should only have power when used in specific connotations. I disagree with that. Words, and language in general, are symbols that have a geat deal of power, and need to be wielded responsibly. Now that being said, I certainly don't think Ozzie should be fired. Whether or not he should be suspended, I will leave to Reinsdorf and Williams. I know Jerry & Kenny talked to him about the issues raised by his comments, and I truly think Ozzie will listen to them. It's certainly possible that Ozzie didn't know, like many others (and some of you), that what he said was wrong. Now he knows, and knowing is half the battle. Re-quoting myself to explain the previous response.

I have to disagree with nearly everyone - I don't think the media is blowing this out of proportion. What Ozzie said was wrong - even if it was meant to challenge the guy's manhood and not as a gay slur. No matter the context or connotation, it is a gay slur, just like the n-word is a racial slur and k*** is a jewish slur. What's sad is that homophobia and heterosexism is so ingrained in our culture that using the word "***" is a commonplace insult just like calling something "gay" is an insult. Most people that use those words don't mean them as gay slurs, but does that make them any less hurtful to gays, no. "Get that ***" is a common jeer hurled at the TV at our sports bar during football season, and when I point out that it's not cool, I'm the one who's in the wrong. The n-word is not acceptable by non-blacks, and the use of "***" by non-gays is not acceptable either. Another argument is that it's only words and they should only have power when used in specific connotations. I disagree with that. Words, and language in general, are symbols that have a geat deal of power, and need to be wielded responsibly. Now that being said, I certainly don't think Ozzie should be fired. Whether or not he should be suspended, I will leave to Reinsdorf and Williams. I know Jerry & Kenny talked to him about the issues raised by his comments, and I truly think Ozzie will listen to them. It's certainly possible that Ozzie didn't know, like many others (and some of you), that what he said was wrong. Now he knows, and knowing is half the battle.

QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jun 17, 2006 -> 11:14 AM) I'd just like to see the DH gone from the game period. not me. I hate watching pitchers bat. Both leagues should adopt the DH.

*sigh* Can we drop the Kotex Boy moniker? As much as I hate Mariotti, it's incredibly sexist and offensive.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 12:16 PM) yeah, they blow. I dont know about you guys, but im skeptical here. Why would Theo trade for a guy he has already had, and gave away for nothing, who has had no success at the big league level. Also he traded one of his more successful bullpen arms for it. When a trade seems this one sided, im very skeptical and why Riske's price was so low. Riske's injury risks (no pun intended) I guess.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 12:45 PM) so you think MLB should just allow steroid/hgh use? yes, but this shouldn't be news to anyone.

who cares if anyone is using drugs? I side with Ozzie.

QUOTE(Wolverine31 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 07:59 PM) Verlander didn't pitch that great but kept the team in the game. He only lost because of a pathetic offensive lineup that hacks at everything and couldn't buy a hit with RISP if their life depended on it. I keep saying if this team does not acquire a bat at the trade deadline, they are done. The last 2 losses hurt to lose in the late innings like that. Their offense was pathetic because they took on the best pitcher in the game.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 03:42 PM) The real question is which pitcher will show up tonight: OR *sigh* can we stop this already??

Wow. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

i love this stuff. welcome home, Hangar!

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ May 27, 2006 -> 04:09 PM) I don't much care for the moniker myself, but it's a reference to Judy Garland more than a slap at women. But the implication is that Jon is playing like a woman, which is pretty offensive. That Judy Garland was a real person isn't important.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 27, 2006 -> 04:03 PM) Judy has no balls. Cliff has lost a few mph on his fastball. You look a lot better popping the mitt at 94-96 with a slider at 88. When you are at 90-91 and your slider is still at 88 there is not enough differential in those pitches. Hey guys, cut it out with the Judy s***. It's sexist and offensive. Show some respect for Jon.

not on mlb extra innings tonight?

Looks weird when the other team isn't wearing throwbacks too......

It's LOM-bard. Not LUM-bard. Geez I hate that. stupid commerical.

LOL at Singleton giving s*** to Bo Jackson. Farmer thinks Jackson could take Triple H.

out here in LA, both teams broadcasters do all non-Fox games. It should be the same in Chicago. that way whoever wants to listen to their team's broadcasters can.

mmmm...........Dave Wills.

now Singleton & Farmer are talking about how to fight off alligators when they're trying to eat you.

anyone listening to Singleton on that spelling exchange? hilarious.

QUOTE(AbeFroman @ May 12, 2006 -> 07:59 AM) I'm not so optimistic that any reliable reliever's will be available... Anybody decent bullpen arm is going to cost a fortune because nobody seems to have a decent bullpen right now. I'm inclined to believe that this is our bullpen for the year What about El Duque? Can we swing another trade for him a la the two Everett trades?