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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 08:50 AM) There is no doubt in my mind, there isn't a more important guy to get locked up long term on this team right now. Forget Frank and Konerko, AJ holds the keys right now. Earlier I felt that we should wait on AJ just to see how things go. Well, I'm convinced. AJ is an asset to this club and they need to lock him up longer. That said, now is not the time to do it. We are in a pennant race and all is going well. If they start negotiating and it turm nasty, that could cause problems at the worst possible time. We hold a club option for next year, so he can't bolt. Let's sve this for the offseason.

I do not see a problem of any kind here. PK was definitely asked a question about the throw Clayton made, that's obvious my his response. He has an opinion and expressed it.

I don't f***ing believe what I'm reading. It's stated over and over throughout this thread that Frist said he based everything on what he saw on a video tape. That is not a diagnosis. Yet, you want to hold him accountable because he gave a diagnosis. You know what? You guys enjoy yourselves. I'm out of this ridiculous conversation. I've had all the political rhetoric and spin I can take.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 01:32 PM) Frist didn't say, 'I said she responds, but only based on the video tape.' He said, "I never said, She responded." He did say that, whatever it was based on. Which makes it a lie. Frist seems to be making the argument that merely by saying 'In my opinion', or 'Based on my viewing of the tape', his statements were essentially never made. Bs, he did say those things, and if the source (or his knowledge, since he has no expertise about the brain) wasn't sufficient to back up his statements, it's his fault for saying anything. This caviling makes Kerry's I-voted-for-the-bill-before-voting-against-it sound wholly convincing by comparison. Frist is slime, I pray this comes back to bite him in the ass in some future election. Show me again where he said that she was responsive ... in the complete and proper context.

QUOTE(CubKilla @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 09:39 PM) Let's air-drop the 90% that aren't dangerous into Canada No parachutes.

I certainly agree with kap. This is total garbage. From the last paragraph: Bill O'Rielly has already done so.

QUOTE(longshot7 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 02:18 AM) Finding you agree with Crazy Carl is a strange thing... http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...cs-home-utility "Everett called Wrigley the worst park in the majors, and whether that is true or not, I don't know. But in Chicago, the ballpark at 35th and Shields beats the one at Clark and Addison." wow. from the Trib too! FIRED!

With SF coming in to take 2 outta 3 from the Twinkies, our Dback debacle didn't bite us in the ass.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 11:53 PM) Burroughs was such a highly-touted prospect and he hasn't turned into anything special YET. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. I rarely see Padre's games... Burroughs was dominant in the one World Series he played in.

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:24 AM) And actually, after some more studying up... Of every stadium that Maggs has had at least 100 ABs in, his average at Comerica Park ranks 2nd worst, only to Network Associates (where all of our hitters have sucked). Comerica career BA: .248 It must be due to that awesome quality pitching the Tigers have had over Ordonez' career.

All a Cub fan would have to do to find out how to pad the vote, is to read this thread. Sounds like you guys outsmarted yourselves.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:06 AM) If some NL fan gets the same idea whateverhisscreennamewas did here, they just might get OMIT Perez into the All-Star game, which is why this is a dumb idea. No way are they, or we, going to cast enough votes to get some no name slug in the AS game.

Since Ozzie responded with his rant, where he said something about "He's f***ing with the wrong guy." which in my opinion was a veiled threat, Maggs has been very quiet. We'll see if it continues when we hook up with the Kitties again.

JimH, you're damn close to spot on with your memory. Veeck did some great things and some things the Sox franchise would come to regret. He did save the Sox from being moved to Seattle when he bought the club in the 70's. I remember reading (probably in an addendum to Veeck's book) that Danny Kaye, who was attempting to buy the Sox and move to Seattle, and Gene Autry walked out of an owner's meeting, arm in arm, while singing "Back in Seattle Again", a knock off of Autry's famous signature tune. As for the Zisk trade, it was Gossage and Terry Forster for Zisk. All were entering their free agent year.

Ok folks .. enough fun for today .. I have to get some sleep. Later.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:20 PM) Ok...I've got a better Frist one thanks to the The Center for American Progress Bill Frist on the Today show in an interview with Matt Lauer: And from the testimony above... So what's changed? He is still basing everything on the video footage?

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:17 PM) It means less than you think. Ozzie can talk all he wants.. if Kenny don't like them, they aint coming here. Perfect example.. Urbina. Ozzie wanted him, Kenny didn't. Thank you. So many people think Ozzie is calling the personell shots. KW gives Ozzie his ear, but KW mkaes the decision ... unless $$$$ makes it a JR decision.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) I'm sorry, but i just can't see how a guy standing up, saying he's a doctor, and then saying "And that footage, to me, depicts something very different than persistent vegetative state" can be construed as anything other than making a diagnosis. But as you said, everyone has an opinion. It's making an opinion based on a video, not examining a patient and making an informed diagnosis. He stated that's what he was doing. That's like taking a video of you opening your mouth, saying ah, and sending to your dentist.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) Yes, but as NUKE has repeatedly pointed out, once the suspects are determined to not be a threat or a source of information they are set free so no harm no foul, right Sure it's taken more than TWO YEARS in many cases to come to these conclusions, but what the hell are they whining about? I declined to use green in the above because it's nowhere near green enough to convey what I think of that off-hand dismissal of the situation. I'm "queezy" about that situation as well. And considering that a couple of U. S. citizens have been labeled as "illegal combatants" and been given the same hospitality, I'm even more so.

Now what the hell are we going to talk about?

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) Everyone has an opinion.. True.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) Of course, given that many of them aren't actually terrorists...that most of the people who have been at Gitmo have never been charged or tried with a crime, and most importantly, that many of them were simply rounded up for rewards, it's slightly wrong to call them terrorists. What actually happened was that when the U.S. went into Afghanistan, we put up big rewards for anyone who would turn in an Al Qaeda suspect. So, the Afghan people started pointing fingers at each other in droves...entirely for the reward money. And since the U.S. had absolutely no way of filtering out which ones were AQ affiliates and which weren't, people were just rounded up and sent away to Gitmo. This was the conclusion of a 2002 CIA report that was leaked to the NYT in 2004. OK. I'll give you that. They have to filter through these people. But, you are assuming that all Gitmo detainees are being treated to this outlandish degree of (gasp!) discomfort. We have extracted intelligence that may be the very reason you are still alive today. But, then, that's neither here nor there.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) He inferred a diagnosis at the end of his speech, but said today he didn't. Just guessing what Balta is calling bulls***. Sorry. But I do not see a contradiction here.

So those poor mistreated terrorists, that want to kill YOU were uncomfortable. Damn! What's the world coming to?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) Absolute 100% Bulls***. Pure Bulls***. Complete lie. Here's his speech on the Senate floor about the Schiavo bill. Where's the bulls***? He said he questioned the vegetative state. You quoted him questioning the vegetative state... in bold print.