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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 02:07 PM) I haven't heard anything yet. I haven't either. Damn!

Is this deal official yet?

Here's a link about Bachelor's Grove. This paragraph comes from near the bottom of the page: This is the honest truth, but I have seen that phantom farm house.

I'm locking this thread until it can be discussed with the admins and mods. There quite a few posts that crossed the bounds of civil discussion. Don't make the mistake of taking it to another thread.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) I tip at least 20% no matter what because of all the s*** waitstaff has to go through They earn their money, that's for sure.

QUOTE (HeGone33 @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 02:21 PM) Here's one for everyone............tipping bartenders When Im out, I can easily drink 15-20 beers and usually feel comfortable with a dollar tip everytime I order a drink. That just seems high to me though. With the cost of a beer varying, its tough to know what to tip. That's why I'd much rather run a tab. 25 or 30% doesn't seem so bad under those circumstances.

QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 02:14 PM) I pretty much tip 20% all the time. Even if I've been like where the f*** is the waiter/waitress or something during dinner....when the check comes I still always give the same. I agree with the paper towel thing too....it's just a F-up situation because they take all the towels so you have to take theirs....then it's like I'm supposed to give you something...It's like you're being strong armed and then when I'm on my 5th piss of the night, I feel bad and end up giving them a buck. The thing I hate doing, but I always do anyway is tip the bartender when they get me a beer. You're f***in back there behind the bar to serve drinks...you turned around pulled a beer out of a cooler and handed it to me...here's your money and dollar tip. If that 20% isn't deserved, they don't get it. Yet, I almost always tip the bartender a buck to grabbing me a beer. It tends to get me prompt service the next time I need one. Have to add here though. A waiter/waitress has to pretty damn bad not get 20% from me.

QUOTE (maggliopipe @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 02:12 PM) My biggest conundrum is what to do when doing carryout. There is a fair amount of work that goes into taking the order, placing it, and wrapping it all up with the extras, etc. I still wouldn't have ever thought of tipping if I wasn't compelled to by the tip line when signing my credit card slip. I do 10% but I get s*** from the wife everytime. What's the proper etiquette here? I'd be interested to hear everyone's comments on this too.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 02:02 PM) False (Dammit). The person below me is married. Once upon a time. The person below me traveled over 200 miles to see the Sox at the Cell last year.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 01:55 PM) I should have been a little more precise. It's when everyone needs to put in a $10 and there's that one person that pulls out their calculator that says they only owe $8.25. In that case, I agree. You just have someone there that is so tight they squeek when they walk.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 01:40 PM) Well, almost by definition, a filibuster is an obstructionist thing, so I'd expect that spade to be called a spade regardless of who does it. Yes, they are trying to obstruct something. That however does not make it a "bad, obstructionist thing". It may very well be a good obructionist thing.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 01:48 PM) I hate going out to eat with a very large group because you'll always get that one ass clown that isn't ok with splitting the check equally. If you only had a salad and no drinks then maybe you should have stayed home. I'll go with the flow on that scenario, either way. I don't want to judge someone because I don't know what their situation is. And yes, maybe they should have stayed home but if the wanted the pleasure of the group of friends and were willing to do so and be frugal, why should they be expected to pick up a more than their share?

I don't mind tipping waiters and waitresses. In fact, for just average service I will tip at least 20% and round up. However, I dodn't want to tip someone handing me a paper towel to dry my hands with in the men's room like I have encountered in some places in Chicago. I'm perfectly capable of getting my own paper towels.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 12:57 PM) yea i suppose thats true. It's the night before Thanksgiving and Greta wants to spend the evening with her family. By the way, O'Reilly is rerunning an interview with Obama.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 11:29 AM) Soi if a Senator said "this is a bad, obstructionist thing", should the reporter include that quote? You know the point I'm trying to make and you are nitpicking possible hypothetical scenarios. But in the interest of answering your question, yes it probably would be acceptable for that quote to be included, as long as a quote from the opposition was included in a fair and balanced manner.

Call it 30 dingers, 90 ribbies and we got a pretty good chance Dye will get there.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 08:10 AM) But if a GOP Senator said "bad, obstructionist thing", shouldn't it be printed? If a GOP filibuster occured, sure it should be reported. That doesn't make it a bad, obstructionist thing. Of course, that is exactly the way it will be reported.

I second that. Be safe folks! And eat hearty.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 11:17 AM) It's actually fairly remarkable how small the difference would likely be between 59/41 and 60/40 if you have a strong President setting the agenda and a press willing to treat the filibuster as a "bad, obstructionist thing". Remember...2010 is 6 years after the 2004 elections. In other words, there's 1 last group of Bush/9/11 Senate Republicans who have to face the voters in 2 years. In other words, the MSM that is supposed to be non-partisan would actually be willing to label a filibuster as a "bad, obstructionist thing"? Oh, surely not.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 10:12 AM) How about "I have faith in you doing your best. We will get through this". I didn't see it that way.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:48 AM) He's on a roll . . . It is interesting that many GOPers believe Obama will accomplish far more of his "alleged" agenda than any other President in the history of the US. From taking all our guns, turning us into a Muslim country, allowing terrorists to take over the US, instituting a draft, etc. They have more confidence in Obama than most Obama supporters. Quite amazing. If they get that 60th senate seat, he'll effectively have a blank check to do implement any and all of his 'agenda'.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 08:33 AM) That was kind of random. Call it a prediction.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 09:01 AM) I really did believe in a conspiracy a lot more until I actually visited the site and walked lots of the famous areas. The size of the area and the way it is set up is hard to appreciate through TV and the internet. I was a believer that Oswald could not have done it alone until I saw these couple of blocks, plus a couple of marksmen who set up some gel dummies and actually tested for the tragectory and distance, that it was entirely possible, actually probable, that LHO did this himself. Now were there people forcing/asking him to do this? That I don't know. You know, Mike. I do believe there was a conspiracy. Oswald had the means, skills and opportunity to do it. But the most convincing piece of evidence to me was a photo taken on Air Force 1 right after LBJ took the oath of office. Johnson has just turned his back to the camera and is looking toward a guy whose name escapes me, but as the photo is snapped this guy is winking at LBJ. It's hard to read anything in that under the circumstances of time and place as anything other than "Mission accomplished".

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 25, 2008 -> 07:15 AM) How many people have actually ever been to the location that this happened at? The one thing I will say is how small the area really is. Oswald shooting from the book depository would have had a perfect shot, at a slow moving target, with nothing in his way, and not a long range. Also with the buildings there, I could really see how people could think there were multiple shooters. Noises echo in areas like that pretty easily, and it becomes hard to tell where exactly they came from. I've been there and I agree with everything you say here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 24, 2008 -> 03:05 PM) Ah yes, when the heat goes on, blame Bush. Its going to be a long 4 years. I wonder how many Obama voters will be happy when they receive their draft notice.