Princess Dye

It's so rare to have a player still remain a fan and be vocal about it. Really rare in the day and age of players treating it solely as a business and nothing more.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 01:18 PM) Seriously? You do realize he would have gotten a virtually identical amount, and possibly more, in arbitration anyways right? All understood, but my problem is being locked in with him the next few years. I wouldnt have minded going to arb with him this year and then having options open for a big spending spree for hitters next year, with Nix as the replacement for MT. Now 2010 is just a little more tight. I'm not saying it's awful, but with Nix you had maybe the potential for a .320 OBP guy with a little power, which is what Teahan has been mostly. Nix actually was one of our best HR per PA last year. Both Nix and Teahan are looked at as guys who need to get better at 3B. So if it's kind of a risk defensively anyway, why not tie your boat to the guy making peanuts? But all that said it's done and I would love to see MT hit that ceiling that he established in his best year. Nix cant do that, I'll grant.

It's weird because the money is reasonable, and I'm no bigtime Nix-supporter. But then when the Sox cry poor in 2010 free agency I'm going to wonder why this was done when you can just plug a backup-type in at 3b. I dont want to do that, but I do if it means it's the only way we can later afford Boras clients (or guys of that level).

This is the second straight really poor thread title i've put out there. If someone can change it for me I'll promise not to do this a third time.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/white-sox/ Most interesting sentence in it is completely mangled, not exactly sure what it was meant to say Missing an edit i guess Highlights: Flowers looking like more and more of an option as backup C......... Thome not ruled out yet, despite their preference for flexibility with a DH

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 7, 2009 -> 09:29 AM) C'mon, guys. I thought this thread was bumped again because there was some new news on the AG front. f*** Cowley! Or at least change the title of this thread to "If you think Joe Cowley sucks donkey cock, post here." That way I can stay outta this thread. Seriously, one way or another this thread has to die. And lets not do any more posts on the newest 'update' as yr then giving said source the satisfaction he likely craves.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 4, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) Sox trade: Konerko ($12M in '10), Linebrink ($5M in '10, $5.5M in '11), prospects Angels trade: GMJ ($11M in '10, $12M in '11), prospects Padres trade: Gonzalez ($4.75M in '10, $5.5M in '11) Sox get: Gonzalez, GMJ Angels get: Konerko, Linebrink Padres get: Sox prospects, Angels prospects Sign me up for this one. I guess the horribleness of GMJ's contract makes it not-impossible.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Dec 4, 2009 -> 11:43 AM) Not the best solution, but probably better than signing a RF and rotating Kotsay/Jones at DH. (BTW -- Ozzie will not DH his back-up catcher.) If CJ Retherford were to make the team, you have an emergency 3rd catcher

We must be one of the few potential contenders out there with two spots available still (DH and OF). Another nice byproduct is you can DH Quentin and cut down his wear and tear, and get better OF defense to boot with GMJ/Rios/Kotsay. Or DH Pods, etc.

I hate to say this but if he and Adrian Gonzalez were traded here (as we had speculated about before)..... i think GMJ would play a lot for us in RF. Not that this is particularly uplifting in any way.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/1047116...sign-3B-Figgins Weird. Enjoy losing, Chone If the suitors arent climbing over each other lining up for him, you'd think we could come in with some kind of offer and be taken seriously. Especially when you think about the declining closer we're about to give 7.5M to

The minor leaguers are 21 yr old pitchers

CHC mustve gotten some real value back....otherwise this makes no sense and is a steal by Oakland

Maybe I just confused my Jacks and Jakes. It looks like Jake Fox and Miles for prospects http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kapl...-prospects.html If someone can edit my idiotic thread title, I would appreciate it (I cant do it right?)

per Bernstein on the Score

Bernstein just said he's about to be traded to Oakland w/ aaron miles I think he mentioned Jack Cust going back....

For the Sox to be really pursuing this, things must be at a total standstill with Pods' people. If the price is right this could be a good idea. You can go after a real DH then.....and keep Beckham as the fallback plan for leadoff hitter. Pagan versus righties...over the last three seasons .308/.364/.456

Looks like he had some fairly impressive #s playing part-time last year. Impressive for what he's been in the past at least Maybe due to lack of sample size he's someone who can be had affordably

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) I still don't see where this philosophy makes any sense. You want to invest the biggest dollars in the bullpen, which should be at least decent next year as is, and then go to the scrap heap for both OF and DH? Pods wants a multi-year deal, you want to take that risk? Bullpens are dicey propositions always, and the very few truly consistently solid arms are very costly for a guy who pitches 3 innings a week. I'd rather invest in the two positions that play every day, and where we can have a better read on future success. You're right, but I guess I just see next offseason as the one where we really make our splash. If the Sox really are strapped, then I'd rather get really good on one side of the ball (pitching). I would only bring back Pods or Thome on a 1-year...and I choose them specifically because I'd assume they'd give a hometown discount. If the Sox have more to spend, then definitely scratch all that. But bullpen is more chaotic to predict,yes...but sometimes because of that fact.... you can get a free agent that has an impact for relatively cheap. I do remember our recently posted list of failed FA relievers, so I'm aware of the dangers that treads on....but it could be a lot better than paying for a Willy Taveras the multiyear $ he got. Basically if we are spending 5M I'd prefer one of our Pods/Thome and the rest on a proven reliever, as opposed to all of it to Vlad and nothing to the pen. Who knows though.

If we really are low on cash, part of me just wants to acquire a great bullpen arm and then just go to war with what we have (I suppose with Pods or Thome). Would be really nice to let the starters have some security.

free agency i guess

http://projectprospect.com/article/2009/12...ching-prospects FWIW, newly posted catching prospect rankings

If we wait til we can move Mitchell........... could send Hudson, Flowers, Mitchell. Then yr giving up a young guy that still K's a lot......and two mysterious players. I would bet the problem we're running into....is other teams arent valuing Flowers enough yet. Hopefully the Sox did a good enough job of getting word out on his improving catching skills.

The Todd Ritchie trade still had us all scarred. At least in what we got back. I disliked this trade but liked Danks/McCarthy.

my prediction which is worth nothing - we trade three top farm guys for Gonzalez..then to offset costs we trade away Jenks.... then use the remaining money to sign Saito and Pods