Princess Dye

If you think attempting winning in 2008 is pointless, then you probably believe we'll be bad fast, and Fields will be UP HERE ANYWAY by midseason. Furthermore, does Fields playing in AAA another year really "stunt" his progress? My belief is talent comes to the forefront or it doesnt. He's 25.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 10:14 AM) I'd also like to say that I think the Swisher deal was idiotic considering we traded our 3 best prospects for a left fielder when we had traded our best hitting prospect for Quentin, who basically is now blocked from starting. My belief is KW thought Swisher would be able to play CF, but we quickly realized he's a disaster out there. Swisher's age, the length and value of the contract, and that much needed OBP are all reasons to like that trade. People who slam that trade do not mention Swish's age, b/c it's a component in the terms of their own argument. And on top of that, he's shown power and OBP in a pitcher's park already. My belief that trade will soon be seen as Swisher for DLS, if that, but thats me.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 19, 2008 -> 09:31 AM) Fields D at 3b is the least of our worries this season. Even if it's adequate, it doesnt match Crede's. Crede's D wins you games in key moments, makes your team better. Fields is the 3b who welp-just-didnt-get-to-that-GW-single. If Fields offense is at its best possible next year, and Crede's is at least slightly above decent.... I dont know that Fields makes you better that way either. Again, it's how much you prize next year. We have already committed to a 2008 run at this thing, so I dont think you complicate that solely to make sure that Fields has come along.

I'm no huge Crede guy, but the pitching staff really is going to need some glovework out there this year. I mean, if the book is already closed on this year, then fine hate on this move. But if we're awful by June, you'll see Fields up and playing anyway, so who cares?

QUOTE(Disco72 @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 03:25 PM) Somebody who knows more than the numbers can correct me, but is it really true that Quentin (395 ABs in 138 games) has had less of a MLB chance than Anderson (416 ABs in 160 games)? It seems they've had relatively equal amount of MLB time to date. For my money, I'll take the players (of Owens, BA, Quentin, etc) that are completely healthy and ready. Anderson has a couple more weeks to keep punching his ticket, but if he continues to perform you have to reward him with a spot on the team. If he really has improved his attitude and his swing, he'd be a major plus to the Sox. Quentin has been hampered with injuries his whole MLB career. That's the difference between his 400 ABs and Anderson's. Anderson has had a 134 game year and hit .225. When healthy, I think Quentin should be up here. Ozzie has said that his current situation is something he'd have played through if it was midseason, so to me that means he's ready to play. If he's still bigtime hampered, then yes he should be down there. Now all that said, we're back to the topic at hand... how much importance does BA's ability to play center factor in? Part of this question, I guess, involves how bad Swish is in CF.

QUOTE(shipps @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 02:57 PM) Iam sorry, but all this Quentin love is exhausting.Its coming from a bunch of people that truly know very little about him.And even if you know every bit about him there is to know there is still too much love for him as if his talent is a sure bet.Stop rushing him into our lineup.The same while you guys are so quick to send any of the other guys to AAA to work on their skill sets.Please spare me. There's nothing wrong with looking at Quentin's AAA stats and wanting to see it get a CHANCE at the MLB level. While healthy. Thats the difference between him and BA. BA, while healthy, has gotten his chance, and then some.

Furthermore, can we classify Quentin as "can play center in a pinch" ?

How important is it that BA is our best fielding OF, and maybe one true CF? To me, I'm thinking that they bring Swisher here PLANNING for him to share CF duties with Owens. Planning - to give Owens every chance for that. What that says to me is AAA for Brian and Quentin is up here to see if he can make that jump. He's never had the chance to do so with the extended ML time that Brian has had. From everything we hear, Quentin projects to being a more MLB ready hitter than BA. How much does Ozzie weigh in the defensive capabilities of Anderson? My thinking is, you dont need the CF on the bench, b/c Swisher or Owens is always going to be out there. Barring Thome injury (and obviously NS's own days off), Swisher is always going to be one of the outfielders. So he can be all the backup CF we need.

Do we want a trade just to rid ourselves of this worry? There's nothing wrong with sending people to AAA. They can come back. Thome will find a way to get hurt, and we'll eventually need Quentin up (or whoever it is) to fill in for Swish when he's at 1st or dh.

Have to find out what is his best position Develop him at AAA for that position UNLESS - you figure out early he's simply not solid defensively, and wont be, and then in that case...consider him as a super-sub even in the present. If his ceiling is a better hitting Ozuna, figure on him being a sub going onward...and maybe he gets time the second half of the year to be a starter, but if so it's gravy. I mean.... all this is tough to say considering how bad Uribe can be.... but i flipflop because i forget that it is Richar's turn, once he's healthy. And that's not a turn that hasnt been earned, by the way. He's projecting to be a decent hitter and good fielder, from what we've seen.

QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 18, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) Bourgeois wont make the team. He is a Pablo clone with a little more power. I dont disagree with your prediction, but reading the above... i cant help think this is even further a justification to put him on the 08 squad. Pablo's no spring chicken

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 17, 2008 -> 06:01 PM) Here is the problem. For some reason, there is a group that holds Crede and Fields in the same group value wise, which is far from the case. On the open market, Fields>>>>>>Crede, maybe with a few more >> Exactly, it's time to come to the reality that no team should have much reason for wanting Crede. He's no youngster and he's shown nothing with the bat lately. All that makes his defense a luxury most teams are going to do without. On TOP of all that, his contract status.

who had the error that helped bring on these unearned runs?

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws judging from this, from the Sox site, there's no chance for him?

obviously i'm no expert on Ramirez or his hitting, i dont know who is at this point. but IF he's a contact hitter, we need that. more than what Uribe is gonna be, which is his usual hackaway self. again, the other options at 2b leave us little reason to look away so quickly. For these reasons, I'd even wish Ozuna at 2b over Uribe. Do others feel, like me, that 2b has been Ozuna's least crappy position defensively?

QUOTE(Whitewashed in '05 @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 11:00 PM) Umm... what? Link Ohno

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 11, 2008 -> 08:50 PM) Well, I would ask why all of our AA and AAA players arent on major league rosters to answer your question, because thats about the talent level of the cuban league. right but the point is just about playing 2b. How much harder can MLB second base be....than Cuban second base? The hardest hit ball down there must be as hard hit as here. The hard slides... well, that would be about the only issue i could think of. If he's hitting the cover off the ball all spring, I think you look past it and give him a shot opening day.

So... it sounds like he doesnt think there's much of a chance Ramirez can handle 2b. But...why would he say this about Ramirez? "It's not the same [playing second base for] Industriales in Havana and playing second base [Opening Day] in Cleveland," manager Ozzie Guillen said. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...g,1,15134.story Has no one in Havana hit a scalding line drive at him? Does no one slide hard? I mean, obviously the talent the league isnt any better, but how is it harder to play 2b at MLB, when the toughest hit balls and toughest situations to be in, as a fielder, are going to be present from time to time in any country's league?

QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 10, 2008 -> 04:57 PM) I don't care what he looks like, he actually has a good approach to the plate and puts good swings on the ball... most importantly, he hits the ball where it's pitched. It's so refreshing to someone actually go with an outside pitch and take it oppo rather then seeing them pull it. It kind of irritates me that the organization is saying "hey lets win this year," despite plenty of reason to NOT have that approach. And then, in the face of that, they seem pretty against giving a shot to this guy, who could be feast or famine. I mean, it's not like Juan Uribe is going to have some breakout year at 2b. Give Ramirez a try and Uribe will always be there.

Everyone who rips on him better be freakin' Fabio

what did CQ just do

Alexei may be the Cuban defecting version of Jose Valentin. a train robber mustache away.

whoever just got into the batters box for us looks just like Willie Harris.

we...may have a player here

ooooooo Alexei 3 RBI triple