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QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:34 PM) How is that hyperbole? I've never ever heard someone say his contract is bad. Maybe they don't have the money for it now but that still doesn't make it a bad contract. Just because a contract is non-bad doesnt mean you cant make a wrong move in taking it on. The Red Sox have taken on a 32 year old guy with recent injuries and a lat surgery that historically is off everyone's map. Last six starts, as a whole, looking so-so to below so-so. So they are taking some risks just like the Sox are betting Avisail is more monster than just-tools.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) I thought the whole point of not including money in the Peavy deal was to allow flexibility in our Rios/Ramirez trade possibilities. This just pisses me off if it's actually true. What do they think is more expensive, eating a couple million now or preventing our ability to get better prospects and thus delaying our ability to compete even longer. Well not including money in the Peavy deal allows for offseason spending too. Cant completely simplify what happened yesterday into some immediate-consequence narrative

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:46 PM) From Keith Law.. "What you think of the White Sox' return for Peavy depends largely on what you think of Garcia. I've long held that he's an extra outfielder, or below-average regular, a player with some tools but very little baseball skill or instincts, especially at the plate where he appears to have no plan at all." Surprise suprise! He hates a player the White Sox love! In other news, the sun rose in the East this morning How does he 'long hold' anything for a guy who just turned 22? That makes him sound like some finished product

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:44 AM) Because no one in their right mind considers Peavy's contract a bad one. And they took it on by giving up a guy with a career .622 OPS...in the minors and nothing else of value. Really great deal for them. It's going to very tough for someone to top what they did. But taking on Peavy's contract means you aren't spending on a different pitcher, so he IS taking the place of something. We just dont know what their other options were, exactly. As far as the guy they got, there was one gem in the last six starts... several fail starts... and a rib fracture in the middle of that. Agreed Iglesias was replaceable, but it's not like it's this unbelievably rosy picture when spending that $20M means they wont spend it on something else. When you're the Red Sox you can spend $20M and get the best of the best. It's not like they're some mediocre destination when it comes time for players to take their offer. How bottomless the well is, as far as BOS payroll, remains to be seen but last year's transaction with the Dodgers shows it isnt totally bottomless

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:28 AM) Yeah, I agree but my point is the Tigers being inept here opened the door for the Sox to do at least a little better. I don't think the Red Sox were going to back on not getting Peavy if we really pushed for another 10-15 guy in their system. They still would come out far ahead of anyone. If the price was 2 very good near-ready prospects, who's to say Boston doesnt just go for another team's starting pitcher? Instead of Peavy?

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:17 AM) Yep. Hard for someone to disagree with the this. The Tigers or Sox needed to push for more since the Red Sox got away with a straight fleecing. The Red Sox pay the money. How is it a fleecing when they take on the dollar figure going to a 32-yr old with injury history? Each side has a certain amount of risk and things they turned down in order to do this deal

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:24 AM) If Paulie wanted to go somewhere, he would be gone already. There are of course guys who dont particularly want to go anywhere, but then get the competitive juices flowing again once they're approached with a trade. In Paulie's case he may just want one last thrill of chasing a ring, to see if he can do it and be productive for one more stretch.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:47 AM) Nothing new, get a feeling we will have to watch Rios dog it the rest of the year, barring some miracle in August on a waiver claim. Rios takes so much heat for dogging it when so many MLB players fail to run things out or fail to run hard. It's the single most infuriating thing about baseball

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 08:26 AM) Jacobs isn't a better prospect than Garcia. But he specifically said Jacobs is the best thing the Red Sox gave up, and Garcia wasnt something the Red Sox gave up

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 07:26 AM) So interesting how differently this guy sees this. Looks like highway robbery by the Red Sox to most, it seems. Well if you read the rest of the article, he actually feels great about the trade from the BOS perspective

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:39 PM) they dumped an overrated bum (that they know is overrated) on a division rival, He's barely 22.

Funny thing is I think I already was tired of Hawk going on an on about Avisail Earlier this year

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:24 PM) He's f***ing 22. Just turned 22. Based on how quick he got to MLB, people here are treating him like some finished product.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:16 PM) I'm more worried about what our system would do to Garcia than Garcia himself. Ah yes the system that brainwashed Brian Anderson to being bad at baseball, yes

It's DET i'd think would get more..

The question is what's his HHIP (hugs+handshakes per innings pitched)

I hate how things often seem to get announced right at 5.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:38 PM) I think ARod is available. Lets also get T-Mac on the Bulls

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:10 PM) That makes too much sense. Why can't the Sox in the past ever pull off deals like that? They have no risk in this scenario. Get Peavy for almost free this year, dump him in the offseason to a big-money team. Pretty brilliant. Well, Peavy could get hurt again, or underwhelm.

I would like to make sure we get David Hochberg back in a trade

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 02:23 PM) http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2013/07/30/d-backs-...with-white-sox/ "Third Matt Davidson" sounds like a tertiary prospect to me

Interestingly we might be telling the Pirates we'll only give them money IF we get someone to take all of Peavy's money. Maybe ownership has given Hahn a set figure he can give out, and it's up to him to allot.

If teams arent willing to take on all the cash we have to send out.............but ARE willing to give out top prospects... then of course Kubel makes sense. You have a player for next year AND you get the spects you want. Have to think realistically here. Additionally, lets not kid ourselves. Kubel at his last two years of stats combined absolutely could find 500 PAs here.

TAB Deportes ‏@tabpr 10m Bien cerca de finalizar el cambio entre White Sox y Pirates, donde enviarían al boricua Alex Rios a Pittsburgh

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:15 AM) I'm basing it on the names associated with St. Louis. Wong, Martinez, etc. I would be more than happy with them coming back for Alexi and Jake. I'd also be more than happy to keep both if the return is lame. I don't get why people errantly assume others opinions. I've been saying I want to trade with St.Louis based on their farm ranking and names rumored. Take it easy bro, it'll be okay. You have explained yourself well. I've extracted what I want out of you.