Princess Dye

which we'd a Kepp him (groan)

Leury is fast

I kind of took it like Kotsay was the rope that KW was happy to let Ozzie hang himself with. Maybe too black & white of a read on that, but Thome was slated to come back super cheap.......so the whole thing just seems to be missing certain elements. Ozzie publicly said his #1 request that year was to have Kotsay back. I dont know that he insisted Kotsay get an every day role, but he insisted that he at least come back (after having had a nice stretch after being traded from Sox to Sox months prior)

Bernstein currently speculating that this could be a Billy Martin situation one day. Not that I want to ruin a perfectly nice day for any of you... Pure speculation,of course, is what it sounds like

Surely not a novel thread, but just curious as this is pertinent at the moment

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Aug 29, 2013 -> 04:14 PM) Neither. Not hipster enough for Danny's and not douchebag yuppie enough for the Map Room. Actually, I haven't been to Danny's in a couple years. I'm sure it's just as douchebag as Map Room now. It's like a vampire that craft beer. If you let an american pale ale bite you, you will become one of us. douchebaggy that is

I wonder if Ozzie is more a Map Room guy or a Danny's guy

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-08...er-ken-williams Article at one point indicates he started (almost) missing KW ..when in Miami.

I think you mean Carlos-Perez-like emotion

http://deadspin.com/chris-sale-goes-berser...ting-1194262002

We may be reaching a point where we can trade a young, ready pitcher for a decent (not outstanding)haul of young talent. That is promising.

QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 02:00 PM) "oh boo hoo, so he has stuff going on.... man up, bro" 'alexei do you even lift?'

Dayan and Alexei are kind of a selling point for guys like this

Have to admit i need a little review session...what's the prognosis for hopes of Brandon Jacobs in CF or is he basically corner for sure

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 03:41 PM) One in the same...except one is still a better glove than the other. So one is a more-elite glove, and one has better history slugging. And the latter is younger, as well. So this is all stuff that is to be determined. Young players. To right now call him a utility infielder is just kind of framing the trade today to suit the narrative you already have going here from the last few weeks. He's a prospect. He has the SLG to become something of a doubles hitting major league short stop, or he can be a backup. There is some range of outcomes for a guy who is 22 and has done what he's done.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 04:08 PM) https://twitter.com/arios51/status/365941615644254208 That lazy, good for nothing, jer....oh wait

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 03:22 PM) Right, which is why you need to get the prospects by giving up the cash in trades instead, which they seem unwilling to do. This is not altogether surprising; these assets we're moving aren't incredibly valuable. Which means you hold on to them if you seek to compete in the short-term, or, alternatively, if you seek to rebuild, you must trade your current assets of value, which we are also apparently unwilling to do. It just looks like we'll be stuck in the middle again with this approach. Do we have proof that great prospects were to be had if we'd just pick up some of the check? Seems like throughout the deadline day rumors we kept hearing about prospects that were requested, yet said requests were denied. In general the era of prospect-boatload-trades are over. Teams now are correctly valuing cheap labor.

So how about our first Post-Post-Deadline top 10? Where does Garcia Pt.II fit in

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) 1) The writing might very well be on the wall with the Alexei Ramirez Era I doubt this leads to any grand conclusions about anything, but we're more just in search of fortifying the wilting flower that has been our system. We're basically getting guys that can pass for real guys who belong somewhere in the top 15 of a real team's farm system. I mean, as much as I love having an Andy Wilkins be a top 15 prospect and all............

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 01:49 PM) Oh, and btw, I'll take the cash instead of Garcia. So you are saying you dont want a player, for no reason at all? Rated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2009 seasonRated Best Defensive Infielder in the Texas Rangers system after the 2009 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2009 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2010 seasonRated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2010 seasonRated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2011 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2011 seasonRated Fastest Baserunner in the Texas Rangers system after the 2012 seasonRated Best Infield Arm in the Texas Rangers system after the 2012 season

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 01:17 PM) This is a pure salary dump of a player that was actually earning his money. But we had just been going on and on about his unending laziness.... like every day..here.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 01:15 PM) If true, Hahn has turned two of our three best best players on the opening day roster into Garcia and cash. Talk about rookie abuse, lol. If Rios put that 850 OPS up again, i'd be more bitter about this. Lets face it, he's a guy that alternates between being awesome and having a noodle for a bat. He just is...that. He makes sense for a team chasing a playoff spot with a need. He doesnt make sense as a guy who you give up great prospects for.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 01:15 PM) So, can Garcia get from Durham to the Cell by 7:10? checking megabus... maybe we can get that $1 first ticket with our newfound savings

The trade deadline kind of proved that he wasnt worth good prospects+salary relief. So we got the salary relief here in the post deadline deal. To me that makes perfect sense. The way we got this guy is the way he goes out.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 9, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) We had tons of money to spend regardless. No reason for a salary dump here Something that is better than 'some money' is Even More Money