Princess Dye

"it's a free country" misused for the billionth time. It's a free country, so Hawk is welcome to yell about the umpires on 35th street outside the park. As a well-paid employee, he's subject to what the team and league wants to project. It's also a free country in that Jerry can fire him. Jerry is perfectly free to do that.

Are they born armless in Nagodoches, TX? Why is it so impossible?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 1, 2012 -> 09:46 PM) One of the rare times we agree Whenever anyone gets ready to agree with Greg quoted, the post always includes a politician-like qualifying statement

That might be in the Top 20 of funniest odd Hawk sounds

Wow, pathetic. Hate to say DV batting where he is in the lineup is still just about right.

Hawk should yell for one to get thrown away during a intentional BB It's the next step in his evolution

"it's maybe a magical year" blah blah blah

Whoa, I looked down and started fast forwarding

Hudson is superstitious

pitcher wins and losses are just so uninteresting now. I care almost 0% about that.

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ Jun 1, 2012 -> 08:53 PM) Living in the heart of Cardinal country, I'm getting my text on right now. What's been your experience w/ the Cardinal fan take on the White Sox? Do you get the feeling there's a shaky alliance there or is it just basically all-out anti-Chicago bias The southern IL anti-Chicago bias is of course based in a lot of things

Hope that old man reads the news about going for baseballs

Quite simply just not a situation a second baseman encounters. Growing pains for Hudson at the position. Instinct is born out of past experiences.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2012 -> 04:56 PM) I've been consistent in saying that if this team does not contend this year that it was time for Kenny to go. How's that being Jay Mariotti? Here I will disagree with you. Dunn's bad year is not on KW. It's a freak thing going on with Adam (out of shape?) but whatever it is...that was not a hideous contract for what was expected and no one was to see his career falling off a table like that. Rios - I'm not going to kill KW over paying what he's paying for a .760 OPS guy who was supposed to handle CF. At RF, it's not great value....but again, not fireable. Rios was great in 2010 and perhaps now. He basically seems like a guy who is a solid piece in the years his bat is not a noodle. Peavy is on KW, as the PETCO numbers were heading downward, so they should've seen something. Peavy is on KW and also Reinsdorf for his insistence on getting aces only on short deals. Which may not be an awful stance to have but just saying it influenced the Peavy acquisition. The Dan Hudson trade appears to be Rizzo's fault. Both Swisher trades are bad, but even that's not fireable because the second one was purely Kenny asking Ozzie the main thing he wanted done, and Ozzie said he wanted Swish off the team. The young guys KW let go are probably the worst thing about him, but since we know he trades prospects, that can't be a shock. We're just not going to be the kind of team that holds onto all of them, so some will flourish on other teams by law of averages. KW is worth it because he is great at the scrap heap and under-the-radar acquisitions.... Danks, Alexei, De Aza, AJP, Iguchi, Quintana, Podsednik. Failed big moves hurt, but assigning tons of blame on the GM for just that is bad logic.

Marty, I will support you, sir. Viciedo showed us so little, in that the HR-power wasn't there enough to make up for the fact that so much of avg-inflated OBP seemed to be on bloops/luck over the last two years. At least at the major league level. On the flipside, many of his bloops are not luck, in that they are created by his pure strength. He's obviously not going to keep the first-ballot-HoF pace throughout this year.....but I have to say he seems willing (much like at the beginning of his 2011 callup) to try the whole plate patience thing. The big key is this - when pitchers leaguewide start being worried about him, how will he react to that. For awhile I thought we had a Jorge Cantu ceiling here offensively, but I'm glad to realize that was a low expectation.

Interesting kind of off-the-map guy

I'm not a Morel defender by any stretch, but I will mention that it sure doesn't help get you going when the rest of the lineup is as bad as it was at the beginning of the year as well. That plus the injury of course should lead anyone here to want to still see what happens with this guy. The glove is obviously good enough to still see what we have. But not at the cost of current wins, as has been said. There's no way you can send down Escobar since he's such a good backup ss.

Even if that hook call is wrong, we need to prioritize winning a game over macho bull s***. There's a reason I keep my fingers out of the garbage disposal, even when it's not running.

Not fit for a game thread, but going to a live baseball game is just not in line with the current trends on what people want to do with their free time. Sadly. Of course teams still draw, but I wonder where we'll be at one day with the ever diminishing attention span. Although being in front of a computer is of course extremely popular, and in that sense baseball has other ways of growing, perhaps in ways that other sports don't.

"Check that," a Hawk and Stacey King team would set some mic clipping records, now that I think about it. But I'd stab my ears out by the all-star break.

Hawk and Wimpy have been a lot of fun these few days, but kind of light on the analysis. I don't know if that fun would last over a whole season...I think it's more just an example of how much history they have and it's basically flowing out during a short-term (winning) situation Stone is so informative. Anyone who says he's boring is looking for bells & whistles, I guess. Are these people also fans of Stacey King? I can't see how two half-crazed noisemakers in one Sox booth would be bearable.

I never got the hatred for Magglio. Sure things got ugly at the end, but a lot more has been forgiven over time in other situations. If he didn't want to be here, I as a fan don't have to hate him for it. I don't want guys who no longer want to be here - I don't believe in imprisoning anyone. Plus, if we're all kind of in agreement that Ozzie wore out his welcome with the organization last year, why is it crazy to consider he and Magglio just wore out their welcome...with each other. To me, the guy here who hates Ozzie and Magglio at the same time is not being logically consistent. This is one of the great Sox players of all time...pretty much, and to me the one question mark is whether or not he was clean. Unproven but a valid concern. I think Bernstein confronted KW about this topic on the air and from then on was basically taken completely out of the circle of KW access.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 27, 2012 -> 07:07 PM) True. Save this thread for when the Sox hitters start going bad. As of today, Manto deserves all the credit he's getting, just as he won't deserve the full blame for when the hitters suck. The best thing right now is a lot of hitters are following Paulie's example and spraying it all over and pulling the ball for home runs when the pitcher comes inside. How do we know they are not merely following Paulie's lead more than Manto's? Regardless Manto deserves credit right now cause all that matters are results. I don't know that Manto deserves any credit or any blame, ever. He's an advisor. These players are pros. They make the changes necessary, and adapt, or their careers end.

This thread is the perfect example of bad logic: looking at an outcome, and assuming you know its root causes. What if I say Manto is failing horribly with Alexei? What if I say Greg Walker was a genius with De Aza last year, causing him to be more impressive than he ever was in the minors? It'd be using the same faulty logic as this thread is using.

Phew, back to the comfortable symmetry of disliking Jake Peavy the Personality and Jake Peavy the Player.