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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) ? Didn't they have like a little homage to the Catch with a little imprint of Wise on the padding?

One of the worst trades in White Sox history, f***ing DFA this bum as soon as Carlos comes back.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) Stone says it's normal for a guy coming off the DL and in his second start. Say the arm strength just isn't there yet. I feel so much better now lol

Are you serious they covered up the catch area with adverts? f*** JR.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 01:57 PM) Tanking waits for no one That said, I think we all are ready for Carlos and Lopez to join this rotation.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 24, 2017 -> 02:45 PM) God that Shields trade is a disaster. I hope to god they cut him after this year assuming things don't magically improve. He's waiver wire bait.

This guy reminds me of a less sweaty Dave Stewart.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 08:43 PM) Avi makes a running catch into the RF corner and hits the wall. Saves two runs and shows why he is a gold glove Give him the 6 year 100 million dollar extension in the post game.

Mercy! Look at the play by Avi!

lol, how the f*** did that ball drop? What was the CF doing?

Melky has to be injured holy f*** he is slow.

I'm sick of this s*** SP.

great frame from Smith.

QUOTE (turnin' two @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 04:07 PM) It is all about risk management. Avi has shown this season that, at his best, he can be a legit middle of the order bat. The Sox have to judge the risk of him falling back into his old ways against what he could be in the future, and what a return for him in a trade may look like. If the Sox believe that this Avi, or something close to this, is the real Avi, they should have lofty demands for a trade. If they think Avi can continue to be a middle of the order bat, they sure has heck had better get a return that can replace him as a middle of the order bat. If they believe the risk of Avi being a .260 hitter with a dozen HRs is high, well, then, you don't need as much back. He looks like a different hitter to me, better discipline, and punishing pitches in the hitting zone. He is also getting much more lift on the ball. In previous years, he would hit the ball hard, but it would be on the ground or a low line drive. He also seemed too ready to just try to punch the ball through the infield (which is a fine approach, but you better hit far better than .260). So, I guess, I am buying into the changes a bit. Not saying I think he is going to be a .340 hitter for his career (or all season) but he was always a guy that had all the tools. If he has mentally put it together and changed his approach, he could be a valuable guy to have in the middle of the order with Abreu. I would be disappointed if they traded him for less than a great return. Young players go through growing pains. Not everyone is Miguel Cabrera. Heck, there are people here saying Schwarber should be part of a return for Q, Avi has never struggled near as bad as what Schwarber is mired in right now. Yet everyone believes he will still be an impact bat. It seems many Sox fans are willing to believe in any one other than Avi. Good post and the bolded is an especially good point. Too often he was going up there like he was Juan Pierre and not a 6-4 230lb guy with great raw power. Or, he was going up there with the mindset of "seeing some pitches" and was letting strikes go by without swinging and falling behind in the count. I read a very interesting piece on the Astros' hitting philosophy which they described as "controlled aggression". The old approach of "waiting for your pitch" they changed to something closer to "look for your pitch and hit it as early in the count as you can". That would certainly describe Avi this year. He's not letting many strikes go by, his inside zone swinging percentage is close to 80%. The article on the 'Stros noted that trying to extend a starters' pitch count is fools gold anyways as these days most teams have guys ready to come in in the 6th and 7th that are throwing 95mph. Getting the starter out of the game early isn't very helpful. It's not swinging at bad pitches as much as not letting good pitches go to waste and falling behind. "Take and Rake" has become "Just Rake".

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 02:44 PM) Robertson and Q are the only White Sox that are rumored to be trade bait who have value. People that have mentioned Melky and Frazier and the like really surprise me, cause they, especially the stat lovers, should know better. If there's a Leury Garcia type out there for either, take it.

We've been lucky to have some really awesome players come through the Sox in the last couple decades even if they haven't consistently put a winning product on the field. MB is certainly one of my favorite players of all time.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 01:28 PM) I believe it is all in Davidson's head. He probably thinks he is too good for AAA and got down on himself when he didn't make the team when we traded for him. Then he struggles and presses way too much to try and prove himself and bam he sucks. The thing about Davidson, and I see why he was a first round pick now, is that for a guy with that much power, he has a really compact swing without much head movement. His main issue is pitch recognition: swinging at too many high fastballs; he's not all like Todd, whose main problem is timing and balance.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 07:29 PM) People seem to think that baseball is a linear progression. You start at point X and steadily climb. There is a reason people refer to a Sophomore slump. Not that is always happens but there is a learning curve for the league. They figured out what he did well last year and they are exploiting his weaknesses this year. He needs to learn to adjust. It's a process. look no further than Schwarber. Most of his defensive problems are just a lack of fundamental preparation, especially to his left where he rounds way too many balls off instead of putting the bill of his cap over his bellybutton and the ball. That's very correctable with time and experience.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 23, 2017 -> 10:15 AM) As a DH, he's around a 2 war guy, but maybe 2.5-3.0 if he can play the position of 3b at around league average. Uh no. A league average defensive 3b with a 128 wRC+ is a 4 WAR player. That said, way too early to say Matt is that.

You know Jose is heating up when he waits back on slow curves like that. edit: my jinx still working.

I think the Sox can score 15 today.

Yolmer, "the little Magician" Sanchez!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 22, 2017 -> 06:51 PM) Q with poor fastball command again. Throwing a ton of pitches Yea I jinxed him.

Avi Garcia is hitting 342/384/555 on 6/22 and Kyle Schwarber is a minor leaguer. Funny game, baseball.