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I'm talking more generally: as in the total economic slump the city is in. Walking around Detroit is like walking back 40 years in the past, except everything has rusted over and the people have all gone away. It's sad, and I'm glad that at least 81 times this year, downtown Detroit will feel like a city on the move.

I hung out in downtown Detroit friday night visiting some friends that work in the labs at Wayne State, and I was AMAZED at all the Tigers gear. I'd say 1/2 of the people in the bars and clubs we went to had either a Tigers hat, or Tigers shirt on. I'm glad they will support a winner, bandwagon or not, that city needs something to cheer about.

I luv threads that move this quickly. Makes Sunday afternoons guy quicker.

DING DING DING! Good post.

Jesus, can't both sides just admit they have damn good teams, and that as of now, the Sox are 5-1 against the Tiggers, but both teams will have plenty of opportunity to prove themselves down the stretch? Deep breaths people.

Here something to chew on: last year at this date the Sox were 51-23, with 358 RS and 279 RA. One year later, the Tigers are 51-25, with 394 RS and 285 RA. And the Nationals this time last year? 44-30 with 305 RS, and 307 RA. The Tigers are much closer to last year's Sox then the Nationals. Much closer.

That's a terrible comparison. The Nationals were never even close to THIS good, THIS late in the season. Furthermore, even when the were 10 or so games over .500, they had a NEGATIVE run differential. Anyone with half a brain knew they were going to eventually suck. The Tigers lead MLB in RD this year. I'm sick of people making dumb comparisons. They aren't a fluke. BP has them at over 80% odds to make the playoffs. Before you scream, the Sox are at 76% odds. Take that with a grain of salt, but historically, teams this good record wise and RD wise don't miss that playoffs that often.

I wouldn't mind seeing an "Official Tigers Watch" thread stickied in The Diamond Club.

And Santo: WTF is that sig from?

If that's the "MLIVE" Tigers board, I wouldn't put any stock in it. It's mostly just 10 year olds. For a really good time, check out the MSU and UM basketball and football boards during the season. It's a pissing content Ozzie and Jay would be jealous of.

You role in around in the mud with pigs and you're going to get dirty. Ozzie could have made Mariotti sound like the whiney windbag he is by just taking the high road and saying: "Jay Mariotti is a coward; I've never seen him come down into my office--the clubhouse--and have the guts to ask me questions straight up. Ask Jay if he ever comes down here. He fears for his safety? Give me a break, that happened over 5 years ago now, and Jurassic Carl's screaming fit, well Carl is a crazy dude but he ain't here anymore." Jay should get his butt down here and get the info straight for the horses mouth." If Ozzie said that, Mariotti would have looked like a high school gossip, and the White Sox would have come out smelling like roses. Too bad Ozzie still has his "street mentality". He needs to realize he's in the corporate world, not the streets of Caracas.

From what I've read, Getz is purely a utility player that will be a good defensive 2B/SS off the bench, but little else. His ceiling isn't that high, and he'll never hit for much average, power, or OBP.

Examples? I'm pretty sure Garcia, Vasquez, Thome, etc would have performed almost EXACTLY the same if Ozzie was say, an astronaut, instead of White Sox manager.

I can't wait to see Sharapova at Wimbleton.

Yep, organizations win championships!

Yes, the world hates us. It has nothing to do with our manager calling people hateful words and being insubordinate.

KW has stuck up for Ozzie in the past, but this recent behavior, not even so much the *** comment anymore, but the whole "I'm not going to sensitivity training" comment is way over the line. Do what the damn commisioner asks and STFU about it.

I was listening to "The V Show" last night at around 3:00 AM, (don't ask), and he did a solid hour and half on straight baseball, and straight White Sox at that! Him and his guests pretty much argued that Mets are the only team in the NL that could even give a halfassed series to the top 4-5 teams in the AL. I have to agree.

Thank you. If anything, we should be caring about Chris Young. Gio is a "meh" prospect--maybe he'll turn into a middle of rotation innings eater, maybe he'll just be a fringe starter or 5th bullpen guy. Young's cielling is much higher, and he's done nothing to change that this year.

I think it's Dye.

I think you're 100% correct. KW will give Ozzie every opportunity to save himself, but if Ozzie continues his escalating bad behavior, then he'll give KW no choice. I hope that Ozzie realizes he's a hell of a manager, and has a hell of team, and that he can throw it all away if he doesn't clean up his act. I just don't understand how a man of Ozzie's intelligence can continue to not realize his patttern of self destructive behavior needs to change.

Perhaps if Ozzie would have just swallowed his pride, apoligized, and then STFU, we wouldn't still be talking about this. Ozzie continues to dig himself a deeper hole, and it's not just this Mariotti incident, it's a pattern of behavior.

Wow, KW has had much more to do with the Sox' success than Guillen. Good post Fathom.

I think they will win around 95 games--maybe a few more--maybe a few less. It's up to the Sox to make sure they take care of business and win the head to heads against the Tigers. It's going to be a great divisional race, and this Sox team seems invincible right now, but a key injury or unforseen problem could quickly make things very interesting.

I don't want a change made yet, and Ozzie would have to completely explode for me to ever want him gone--but if it does happen--Joey Cora is quietly waiting in the wings, and I think he'd make a fine manager. JR loves loyalty and rewards it as well, so I don't think it's that unrealistic they would give the keys to Cora.