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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) I would be content with that as well. He has terrible mechanics at the plate, and when you add the bad pitch recognition, you have the ingredients for a mediocre hitter. If Justin Smoak can turn it around... Not saying Avi ever will but he's cheap and they have nobody else to replace him so you have nothing to lose by letting him try and click with a new staff.

Good posts. I'm all for trading Q and Jeff. Get some position players.

The 2nd wild card is going to help the Sox so much this trading deadline. 20 or so odd teams are gonna think they are in it and with the pitching FA market not looking so hot either the Sox should be able to squeeze at least a couple B level prospects out of someone for Shark. Nothing that's going to help right away most likely but that will be a solid return.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) I wouldn't be too sure of that. There are many franchises that keep executives around in lesser roles. IMO the Sox are far from one of the worst franchises in baseball. However, as I stated, he isn't going anywhere until he decides it's time. Since 2008 or so, they've been one of the worst franchises in baseball. No ifs, ands or buts about it IMO.

I agree with SS2K: the entire team is pressing. I'd have rather RV ordered everyone to go get drunk, hookup with some slumpbusters, sleep it off and show up an hour before the game.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 7, 2015 -> 03:22 PM) Jay Cutler is the best quarterback the Bears have ever had And George Herbert Bush was the best president the Bush's ever produced.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 6, 2015 -> 01:26 PM) You clearly are a jinx person if you truly believe someone here is doing something that will effect the outcome of anything Sale does. We're just a few of perhaps thousands of fans talking about Chris Sale and his chances at winning an award. Fine, forget that. The absurdity of giving him the Cy Young on July 7th is silly and should be tabled until Sep.

wow, I'm not a "jinx" person but can we not do this to Chris Sale...

It's called pressing and the entire team does it. RV seems absolutely clueless when it comes to getting his guys ready to play. Now, this is something controversial -- what does "ready to play" even mean anyways? Well, we've seen it with 4 different rosters now so while I can't precisely say what it means I can very well see that RV seems to lack the leadership required to have his guys ready on a daily basis.

Best fans in baseball! LMAO, Chris Sale is a top 15 pitcher in baseball??? Hahahahahahahahahaha. And Mike Trout is a top 15 hitter!

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 05:44 PM) The Chicago Sun-Times is calling for the return of Ozzie Guillen Oh great. He quit on the team he's dead to me.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) These so called baseball expert analysts can say what they want. Baseball players are professional athletes and are ADULTS! If they don't perform you don't treat them like children you move them. Find someone else to play if you truly feel these guys can't perform. I just got done listening to similar stuff on MLB network. They have no idea what happened to the Sox and a couple said they had picked the Sox to win after their off season moves. The Sox effort yo win now appears to have failed big time and we have no back up plan as far as developing our own. They think the Sx picked poorly in the draft for a decade but the last couple years have shown good moves, but there are no major league ready position players. The Indians on the other hand are seen as being able to recover faster. Seems the Sox are doomed for last place for several years. They also are humans that enjoy a good workplace environment and respond to leadership both good and bad. There's plenty of reasons they suck but IMO the manager isn't part of the solution, so he's part of the problem.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 04:29 PM) 15-25 in the division. 14-27 on the road. Business as usual. Don't forget the public backing of Robin (2x by my count) and the public "blame game" by KW. Just another early summer on the south side.

Fire Hawk as well. Everything about this franchise is staler than the hot dog buns they server in the upper deck.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 04:01 PM) I think some teams would just cut him a check for 6 mil and send him to Boca. Or better yet, pay his freight for a B- level A ball pitcher.

I have rarely felt that JR runs an incompetent ship but right now I'm convinced of it. This team is clownshoes from JR all the way down. Wouldn't be surprised to see Hahn resign after the year.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) I felt after he hit the batter he should be removed. Leave him in til he gives up a run. Though he did come back and whiff Miggy after that I believe. Hard call with these aces. Guys like Shark, Verlander, Sale don't like to be taken out. They are ornery about it. Shark isn't even in the same zip code as Sale and Verlander. He's never been an ace. Never.

every other f***ing team in MLB realizes it takes a special pitcher to go through a lineup 3 times. It takes a special kind of stupid to think Shark is that guy, and that when he loads the bases with no outs that he's the guy to leave in. FIRE ROBIN.

LOL, RV is BEGGING TO BE FIRED. FIRE HIS ASS

Don't look now but Adam Eaton has an OPS of .705. He could still put together a pretty damn good year at the plate if he keeps this up. Defense needs work but hey baby steps.

I agree his arm is fringey at SS but I'm wondering is his routes and quick release will compensate enough. And, if he continues to mature into his body his arm should get a little stronger. I really just want to see if they can use Sanchez as the bridge in '16 at SS to Anderson.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) Since he's this terrible at the plate I'm just guessing he finally is slow enough that he can't catch up with pitches or with balls he used to in the field, is overcompensating, frustrated, and then gets distracted. He's old and has a ton of miles on his legs. He's always been a guy teetering on the edge of a cliff IMO and well, he's gone over. He does not have "old man skills" at all. He doesn't command the strike zone and he's hugely reliant on his athletscism at SS for his value. Rabbit is right when he says hindsight is 20/20 but you really didn't need a fortune teller to see this one coming. That said, the sox f***ed themselves when they decided to try and contend this year, then they had to keep him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 26, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) Call me crazy but I think he has value to a contender now. He'll re-focus on his new team. Trade him ASAP. You're crazy.

Just let Sanchez play SS and see if his range and quick release can make him good there.

There are no quick fixes. If it was easy everyone would do it. At this point they need to call a meeting with Jose, Eaton, Avi, Q, Robertson and Sale and ask them (well not Avi and Eaton, but they should be in the meeting imo) if they want to stick around for a 3 year rebuild. If they don't, ship them out. Team needs a full cleanse, including a couple years of top 3 picks.